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Old May 09, 2013, 12:38 PM
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I've been having problems w/ insomnia since daylight savings. My pdoc started me on Trazadone 100mg. I would fall asleep but wake up at 1,2 or 3 am, not able to fall back asleep. I called my pdoc explained and she called in Visteril 50 MG. After two night it did nothing. I called my pdoc again and was told to take Trazadone 200 MG. again it worked for a few days then it stopped.
I take Lithium it makes me drink constantly, in turn I have to go to the restroom a lot. Last night I got up at 3:30 am to use the restroom and couldn't go back to sleep.
I know I can not take another 200 MG once I wake up. I've thought abt taking Benadryl but I can't do it 5 days per week. What should I do? Should I bug my pdoc again? Is this normal?
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Old May 09, 2013, 12:45 PM
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yes. bug your pdoc. That sort of thing's been happening to me.
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Old May 09, 2013, 02:59 PM
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Old May 09, 2013, 03:15 PM
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Why can't you take Benadryl several times a week? Trouble waking up in the morning? It seems to work well for me.

Another solution might be taking a small (25-50 mg) dose of Seroquel before bed PRN. That seems to keep me asleep if I'm waking up at night & am unable to fall asleep.

As the daylight hours grow longer, I seem to have more trouble getting a good night's sleep, but I think that's just my schedule. During winter daylight hours I tend to hibernate like a bear. I hope you can find a solution to your insomnia. I'm not having this problem right now, but know how frustrating it can be.
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Old May 09, 2013, 04:20 PM
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right now i take klonopin at bedtime to help me sleep, add an ambien if that doesn't work. I often take a benadryl anyway cuz of allergies.

pdoc said to call her if it gets really bad and none of those meds work and she'll write me for some small 25mg seroquel to try. she said latuda is good but expensive, and I think i've heard complaints on here about latuda.

I don't know But I know the nights like that are horrible.
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Old May 09, 2013, 04:44 PM
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Yes, circadium rhythms have something to do with it, too.

I read yesterday that, when we wake up in the middle of the night and can't go back
to sleep, eating some raisins and a little butter will usually put us back to sleep soundly. (It has to do with cholesterol activating the serotonin receptor sites that are supplied with "food" by a little cholesterol and sugar.)

Lemon-honey cough drops do it for me.

You might try that as an alternative to taking additional meds that add to the acid
load we already have by taking meds. (They all leave an acidic residue.)

Sleep well, Coco.
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Old May 09, 2013, 05:34 PM
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If it were me I would call your Pdoc. Insomnia can push people in a Mania, so yeah bug the Pdoc . My Insomnia started when I was a child, and I struggle with it still.

Raisins and butter ... what the hell ? I can't imagine eating that together. ugh
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Old May 09, 2013, 07:04 PM
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I understand your feeling, Christina. But it has to do with the fact that
cholesterol activates the serotonin receptors and it is the neurotransmitter serotonin that helps in bringing on sleep. The sugar in raisins acts just like sugar--as what appears to be a narcotic depressant that acts on the opiate centers of the brain and will help invite sleep, too.

Lol, Christina. I see your reasoning.

Ever had raisin bread, Christina? Sometimes butter is used on that
and then it's toasted.

Do you believe in the "lemon thing", Christina? Much more current data
is available on that as a help to reduction of acidic ash.

You're a funny lady!

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Old May 09, 2013, 07:32 PM
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I understand your feeling, Christina. But it has to do with the fact that
cholesterol activates the serotonin receptors and it is the neurotransmitter serotonin that helps in bringing on sleep. The sugar in raisins acts just like sugar--as what appears to be a narcotic depressant that acts on the opiate centers of the brain and will help invite sleep, too.

Lol, Christina. I see your reasoning.

Ever had raisin bread, Christina? Sometimes butter is used on that
and then it's toasted.

Do you believe in the "lemon thing", Christina? Much more current data
is available on that as a help to reduction of acidic ash.

You're a funny lady!

Take care.

Ha ! I get the raisin toast idea.

But were you saying just like pile some raisins on a glob of butter??????? That is what has me stumped

I have given the lemon water a long drawn out trial .. It hasn't helped me at all , But maybe its just me and the food I allow myself to eat.
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Old May 09, 2013, 07:48 PM
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Maybe wine (grapes/raisins) and some raw cookie dough (butter) will do the trick for me lol. Raisins & butter gave me a good giggle, thanks for that. And I forgot I do like that raisin bread toasted, been a long time. Worth a shot.
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Old May 09, 2013, 07:53 PM
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I'll definitely try the raisin bread,butter, toasted. I actually have some.
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Old May 09, 2013, 07:55 PM
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I've actually done the bendryl thing, helpful, but as you say can't take it 5 days a week.

I can't remember what it's called, but purely from commercials, there's supposed to be a sleep med that specifically helps with people who don't so much have trouble falling asleep, but staying asleep, maybe you can ask about that.

This certainly can't be helping with the depression, though may in part be caused by the depression --vicious cycle I know you get thirsty with Lithium, but maybe try and not drink any fluids for about an hour before going to bed?
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Old May 09, 2013, 08:01 PM
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I understand your feeling, Christina. But it has to do with the fact that
cholesterol activates the serotonin receptors and it is the neurotransmitter serotonin that helps in bringing on sleep. The sugar in raisins acts just like sugar--as what appears to be a narcotic depressant that acts on the opiate centers of the brain and will help invite sleep, too.

Lol, Christina. I see your reasoning.

Ever had raisin bread, Christina? Sometimes butter is used on that
and then it's toasted.

Do you believe in the "lemon thing", Christina? Much more current data
is available on that as a help to reduction of acidic ash.

You're a funny lady!

Take care.
Sugar is activating and not recommended before sleep if you're having trouble with sleep. Though, to be realistic, a few raisons on a piece of bread aren't exactly going to add up to much sugar, so I doubt it would have much of an impact either way. Whatever works, though.
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Old May 09, 2013, 09:25 PM
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I've forgotten what a good night sleep is. That last good night sleep I had I think was in the 90's.
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Old May 09, 2013, 09:47 PM
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Coco, there is a website from which I drew the information regarding raisins and butter. I'll try to go back to my files and pull it up for you tomorrow, maybe.

I keep the lemon and honey cough drops by my bedside at night, and they work,
as I said, for me. (Rite Aid, a pharmacy locally, sells the brand; I much prefer
it to Ricola cough drops.) But, then, I also rely on the "lemon thing" occasionally
for help with medication ash.
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Old May 10, 2013, 09:14 AM
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I did the raisin/butter last night and the lemon thing this morning. I'll be sure to pick up lemon cough drops. Thx again for all ur help.
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did it work?
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Old May 10, 2013, 09:22 AM
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did it work?
Honestly it's hard to say, I took a Benadryl too. Last night had to ensure I received good sleep. It's the weekend so I can try just the raisin/butter.
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3). Anxiety
4). Hashimoto
5). Fibromyalgia
6). Asthma
7). Atopic dermatitis
8). Chronic Idiopathic Urticaria
9). Hereditary Angioedema (HAE-normal C-1)
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12). Food allergies, medication allergies and food intolerances. .
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Old May 10, 2013, 09:24 AM
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Oh what's really interesting is I do not have problems w/ insomnia on the weekends. What's the rational there?
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Spoons are a visual representation used as a unit of measure to quantify how much energy individuals with disabilities and chronic illnesses have throughout a given day.

1). Depression
2). PTSD
3). Anxiety
4). Hashimoto
5). Fibromyalgia
6). Asthma
7). Atopic dermatitis
8). Chronic Idiopathic Urticaria
9). Hereditary Angioedema (HAE-normal C-1)
10). Gluten sensitivity
11). EpiPen carrier
12). Food allergies, medication allergies and food intolerances. .
13). Alopecia Areata
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Old May 10, 2013, 09:42 AM
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Oh what's really interesting is I do not have problems w/ insomnia on the weekends. What's the rational there?
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Probably the consciousness that you won't be under any stress during
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You are away from the most stressful things for two days.
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Old May 10, 2013, 10:25 AM
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Probably the consciousness that you won't be under any stress during
the weekend.

You are away from the most stressful things for two days.
OMG! I just spoke to my pdocs nurse, she concluded it was due to stress too. I have an appt w/ my pdoc next Tuesday.
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Spoons are a visual representation used as a unit of measure to quantify how much energy individuals with disabilities and chronic illnesses have throughout a given day.

1). Depression
2). PTSD
3). Anxiety
4). Hashimoto
5). Fibromyalgia
6). Asthma
7). Atopic dermatitis
8). Chronic Idiopathic Urticaria
9). Hereditary Angioedema (HAE-normal C-1)
10). Gluten sensitivity
11). EpiPen carrier
12). Food allergies, medication allergies and food intolerances. .
13). Alopecia Areata
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