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Old Jul 21, 2014, 01:15 AM
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So i've been seeing a guy for about 6 weeks and he is really great. The problem is i don't think he's ever experienced any real existential angst, so there's a certain lack if depth. He's being very open minded about my bipolar and all the monitoring i'm under. He doesn't understand it, but it doesn't seem to freak him out either. So i should be really happy with it, and in some ways i am, but i don't know if this could ever go long term because we will never connect on certain levels. My therapist says that i have friends to talk about those things with, and that i don't need that from a partner. But i'm not so sure. I'm going to stick with this for a while and see what happens, because there is a lot about him that's really great. But i think maybe i need to date another person with bipolar. I think that chemistry could be amazing. But i don't know how i would meet another bipolar. At least someone who has some internal chaos... Or maybe i should listen to my therapist. I just don't understand neurotypicals.
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Old Jul 21, 2014, 01:22 AM
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I think it helps to have someone that balances you out. Even if he doesn't know exactly what you're going through, if he can be there for you and be supportive then it can work. And maybe you don't need to date right now - maybe you just need yourself and your friends. But you also have to do what you want and what's right for you, so just go with your gut instinct.
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Old Jul 21, 2014, 01:34 AM
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Giving it some time is a good idea.

I for one could never date another BP, ok maybe I actually could, but I'm dead sure I could never date another borderline.

I value the stability and calm my bf brings to the table far too much. He balances out my crazy, he's the calm and I'm the storm. I need an anchor, and I don't see someone like me being able to be my anchor.

I don't talk in depth MH stuff with bf, not because he won't understand, but past stuff that made me see it was healthier to keep this shyt as seperate from him as possible.
I do however share the stuff that affects him, because that's relevant to our relationship.

My bf isn't exactly neurotypical,he suffers from bouts of intense depression, but I wouldn't write someone off because they didn't have a MH dx. Some neurotypicals can be very supportive and understanding (the ones I know anyway) even though they essentially don't "get it"...
Support comes wrapped in all sorts of different packages, and besides, for me, acceptance is way more important than being understood.

My T and PC friends understand, and that's more than good enough for me.
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Old Jul 21, 2014, 04:43 AM
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I can't speak for you and your unique situation, but for me, I recently realized that maybe I just need to keep my romantic life and my need to express my bipolar disorder separate. Maybe you do too. I hope that helps.
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Old Jul 21, 2014, 08:24 AM
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I can see it both ways. My wife is definitely the calmest, most level headed person I know and sometimes it's great because she is able to think rationally and bring me down to earth when I need it.

However there are times I really wish she understood me more. She doesn't get what it's like to be depressed or incredibly angry at the world so it's hard for her to understand how to comfort me when I get like that.

I do have a really good friend who is bp so I think that helps because I can bounce ideas off of her and I can find the understanding I crave at times too.
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Old Jul 21, 2014, 09:01 AM
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So i've been seeing a guy for about 6 weeks and he is really great. The problem is i don't think he's ever experienced any real existential angst, so there's a certain lack if depth. He's being very open minded about my bipolar and all the monitoring i'm under. He doesn't understand it, but it doesn't seem to freak him out either. So i should be really happy with it, and in some ways i am, but i don't know if this could ever go long term because we will never connect on certain levels. My therapist says that i have friends to talk about those things with, and that i don't need that from a partner. But i'm not so sure. I'm going to stick with this for a while and see what happens, because there is a lot about him that's really great. But i think maybe i need to date another person with bipolar. I think that chemistry could be amazing. But i don't know how i would meet another bipolar. At least someone who has some internal chaos... Or maybe i should listen to my therapist. I just don't understand neurotypicals.
One day at a time. No need to rush anything. Dating someone else who has BP? That could be difficult especially if you cycle differently. Something to think about.
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Old Jul 21, 2014, 10:45 AM
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Yeah, i guess i'm not really looking for someone to balance me out. More someone to have adventures with and discuss philosophy and amazing things, and i just think people with bipolar are naturally better at those things. Maybe i'm just thinking of an ideal and it really wouldn't be that way, if we were cycling differently, or both really unwell at the same time. But if we were both stable(ish) like i usually am, i think it could be pretty great. But maybe i don't need someone bipolar to do that. I just think that if you have experienced depression, you can understand existential
philosophy (which i love), and if you have experienced hypomania you can understand adventure and the beauty of chaos. But i do have a couple of bipolar friends, and all of you, so maybe it's ok just to stick with that and enjoy someone who is just uncomplicated.
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My husband has read up on BP and asked me loads of questions even went to my T ... He has a working idea of BP but thats it .. I dont talk much about BP to him ..

If I am in trouble I talk to my friends here .. But my husband is my anchor ... When I am having trouble he is there to hold me and remind me that it will be ok ... I choose not to tell him everything , he wont really "get it" but he supports me whether I am stable or having trouble

I dont think I could ever handle being with someone with Bipolar ...
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Philosophy tends to obsess about the nature of perception in general, and I found the intro course to the fundamentals of western philosophy rather easy. My view concerning how seemingly intuitive philosophy has been for me is that my familiarity with two discordant ways of perceiving my environment led to an acute awareness of the subjective nature of perception. I had apparently been philosophizing for most of my life trying to make sense of my world.

I didn't find any of the materials presented to be compelling, and also did not bother looking further into philosophical discourses. However, I relentlessly continue to view my world in a philosophical manner and during a crisis and severe depression that began in April I was back at it in full measure.

My brother is majoring in philosophy and i have found talking with him about the nuances of subjectively to be beneficial. He would mostly nod his head in affirmation of conclusions I had arrived at, referencing materials he has encountered during his studies. One day we were talking and he told me he had some source materials from a paper he had written I might find quite interesting. It seems the model of cognition and philosophy I developed to work through many of my issues already had a name, and had been defined quite clearly with far more descriptive vocabulary than I had been using.

So, I entirely concur and wish to confirm that the influence bipolar has can and does lead to individuals, like us, who possess a natural aptitude for philosophy. I believe you might find the paper I read interesting as well: (apparently I need ten posts before I can submit links, search Google for "enactive sense making". It should be the first result, title starting as, "making sense of sense-making: reflections on enactive...".
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Old Jul 21, 2014, 08:50 PM
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Philosophy tends to obsess about the nature of perception in general, and I found the intro course to the fundamentals of western philosophy rather easy. My view concerning how seemingly intuitive philosophy has been for me is that my familiarity with two discordant ways of perceiving my environment led to an acute awareness of the subjective nature of perception. I had apparently been philosophizing for most of my life trying to make sense of my world.


I didn't find any of the materials presented to be compelling, and also did not bother looking further into philosophical discourses. However, I relentlessly continue to view my world in a philosophical manner and during a crisis and severe depression that began in April I was back at it in full measure.


My brother is majoring in philosophy and i have found talking with him about the nuances of subjectively to be beneficial. He would mostly nod his head in affirmation of conclusions I had arrived at, referencing materials he has encountered during his studies. One day we were talking and he told me he had some source materials from a paper he had written I might find quite interesting. It seems the model of cognition and philosophy I developed to work through many of my issues already had a name, and had been defined quite clearly with far more descriptive vocabulary than I had been using.


So, I entirely concur and wish to confirm that the influence bipolar has can and does lead to individuals, like us, who possess a natural aptitude for philosophy. I believe you might find the paper I read interesting as well: (apparently I need ten posts before I can submit links, search Google for "enactive sense making". It should be the first result, title starting as, "making sense of sense-making: reflections on enactive...".

I would love to read the paper if you can figure out how to post it, thanks! Otherwise i'll try google.
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