[p123]

Have many of you had relations with our rival the psychopath? I'm thinking of some of the instances were I've had relations with this beast and was wondering how the effects of a psychopath play on mania.

[Blue Telescope]

A psychopath will completely undermine a manic, no matter how hyper intelligent the manic may be, he won't even have a clue that the psycho is manipulating his every move. Yep the psycho's gonna win this one, hands down. I unfortunately am the manic, and was married to a borderline psychopath for 10 years. Words can not truly convey what I went through during those years......

[p123]

I largely agree. A manic may have his or her moments, but a psychopath is going to really be able to manipulate a bipolar person. Are bipolar more subject to manipulation because of mania and delusions of grandeur? Same here in regards to relationship. I'm curious about just how much of a psychopath she really is, but we do have a child together, so it's something not worth stirring up for the sake of my daughter.

A psychopath's undermining tactics is something I've fallen victim to many times. Care to offer up any examples?

[Blue Telescope]

Originally Posted by p123

Are bipolar more subject to manipulation because of mania and delusions of grandeur?

I believe mania and grandiosity makes them easy pickings for a psychopath. Psychos use military grade cunning to manipulate anyone they choose, but when they encounter a bipolar who is actively manic, they know he or she is an easy target: because they are already thinking in a godlike mode - they have left planet earth in other words, so a psychopath can take full advantage of their disconnected state.

Originally Posted by p123

Same here in regards to relationship. I'm curious about just how much of a psychopath she really is, but we do have a child together, so it's something not worth stirring up for the sake of my daughter.

A psychopath's undermining tactics is something I've fallen victim to many times. Care to offer up any examples?

Sure, here's a great example: My wife physically assaulted me one night after I told her I didn't want any children with her. She stormed out of the house and went to her place of business (because she had a key to it)). Well I was worried about her, because she was having a psychotic break, and she made suicidal gestures also. So I headed up to her work, because I knew that's where she'd be, and on the way there I called the police just in case she needed restraining. So I arrived shortly after she did, but I just stayed in the car. When the police arrived, I got out of my car to tell them more of what was going on. Two of the four officers headed straight to my wife and I just stood by the others. Now my wife was a beautiful woman, I'm sure that didn't hurt, but after talking to the police for just a couple of minutes, they walked out to me like I was the aggressor and kindly asked me to leave, that my wife was fine. She had flipped them like a regular Hannibal Lecter and they believed everything she said, she told them that I was bipolar and was off my meds.............so you can see just how quickly a borderline psychopath can manipulate...........in my opinion they are far more cunning than a bipolar.

PS: we went on to have 2 children....

[loophole]

Yeah you can't pull the psychotic card on the police... the term psycho is thrown around far too losely and the reality is most psychopaths fly under the radar... gotta be easy on the psychopaths.. well I just mean their thoughts can be perceived just as easily as bipolar peoples... doing things we shouldn't as I'm sure they do stupid stuff and also jump back.. personally I think bipolar Is just as capable at it all though the average psychopath spends an entire life manipulating and we don't as much time to it..

[ceramichornets]

I just wanted to say that there is a significant distinction between psychopaths and sociopaths. Psychopaths may be aware of their actions - however, their mi still has a significant impact on this. Sociopaths, on the other hand, are manipulative, plotting, and think of themselves above everyone else. A psychopath may see themselves as a literal god who needs to hurt other people because it gives him or her an imaginary power. A sociopath will think of themselves as god-like, or swimming in a pool of goldfish while being "other", more cunning, more powerful. Traits of a sociopath closely mirror those with antisocial personality disorder, but a sociopath is often put in a more criminal category while someone with APD has a disorder like others with mi.

A sociopath can usually get whatever they want because they know how to pull the strings, they can read people very easily, and their emotions are often lacking, therefore hindering their ability to empathize.

So, in reality, it would be the sociopath plotting every move, knowing what you're reaction will be long before you even feel it. A psychopath might have an inclining and push buttons, but they are often portrayed as someone who's mental health is completely out of their control.

[elevatedsoul]

my ex was a psychopath...