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Old Sep 12, 2014, 10:13 PM
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Do not forget kindling theory behind worsening symptoms of I medicated BP.
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Old Sep 13, 2014, 08:08 AM
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Yes. I can volunteer. That is a good idea. I just need to find out where I can volunteer. This would be an excellent step for me to take.
I work in a public library and we use a lot of volunteers. Every library is different, but if this interests you at all, it might rewarding.

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Old Sep 13, 2014, 10:30 AM
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Most certainly. A very significant portion of jobs requiring highly trained and capable individuals are increasingly filled by people who are from other nations. This is due to an education system and overall culture that is not up to the task to fill those positions.
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Old Sep 13, 2014, 10:31 AM
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Do not forget kindling theory behind worsening symptoms of I medicated BP.
Wait -- what's kindling theory? I know I've heard of it, possibly even on this thread.

Oh my brain! Lol
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Cymbalta, 60mg -- for the depression.
Latuda, 40mg -- for the paranoia (delusional type).
Adderall, 40mg XR & 5 mg reg -- for the ADD.
Xanax, .5 mg as needed -- for the anxiety.
Topamax, 50mg -- still figuring this one out.

MDD, but possibly have some form of Bipolar Disorder. Then again, I could be paranoid . . .

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Old Sep 13, 2014, 01:29 PM
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"...patients who have had a number of affective episodes are more vulnerable to future episodes – and that later episodes are less likely to require an environmental trigger than earlier episodes. But he acknowledges that some studies disagree, and that many patients do not follow these patterns."

Quote from this article here at PC: The Kindling Hypothesis: Is It Relevant in Psychiatry? | Psych Central Professional
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Old Sep 13, 2014, 03:31 PM
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Thanks tucson for the article.

Kindling occurs IMO like any response to stimuli. But the reverse of kindling can also occur with the right courses of action.

Is it easier to let a fire rage than to try to put it out? Simply all I am getting at is controlling bipolar is not hopeless. But it does require attention and care to reverse.
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Old Sep 13, 2014, 05:26 PM
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Research that I have come across points to the possibility of meds reversing the "damage" that BP can do to the brain. I imagine there are also other ways too. So I think what you are saying is true. Damagd to the brain due to BP can be reversed.
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Old Sep 13, 2014, 06:16 PM
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I don't know but I was feeling suicidal and manic. The psychiatrist prescribed risperdal and voila I'm back to work and being productive. I always trust the right drug combo more than therapy. Therapy helps but for me the most positive changes come when I get the right drugs going.
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Old Sep 13, 2014, 08:27 PM
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"...patients who have had a number of affective episodes are more vulnerable to future episodes – and that later episodes are less likely to require an environmental trigger than earlier episodes. But he acknowledges that some studies disagree, and that many patients do not follow these patterns."

Quote from this article here at PC: The Kindling Hypothesis: Is It Relevant in Psychiatry? | Psych Central Professional
Ah I see. Thank you for the article! It was interesting. There is quite a lot I do not know about Bipolar Disorder, including theories and hypotheses that are floating around.

So based on this theory, it could very well get worse as time goes on for some.
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Cymbalta, 60mg -- for the depression.
Latuda, 40mg -- for the paranoia (delusional type).
Adderall, 40mg XR & 5 mg reg -- for the ADD.
Xanax, .5 mg as needed -- for the anxiety.
Topamax, 50mg -- still figuring this one out.

MDD, but possibly have some form of Bipolar Disorder. Then again, I could be paranoid . . .

Well, at least I still have my sense of humor.
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Old Sep 14, 2014, 04:42 AM
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Research that I have come across points to the possibility of meds reversing the "damage" that BP can do to the brain. I imagine there are also other ways too. So I think what you are saying is true. Damagd to the brain due to BP can be reversed.
as for meds. There is recent article on PC about how benzos are linked to Alzheimers (so much for how they need to be part of your "rest of life" coctail if you suffer anxiety. APs can cause brain atrophy on top of other things.

Not saying don't take them, but really to sell them as "neuroprotective" as I seen some people do......... hard to believe that.


Plus, how many brains for unmedicated, but aware (hence not self-medicating and badly living) bipolars they scanned to be able to say BP damages the brain? I really don't think you can claim bipolar itself is some brain corrosion agent. Choices made due to bipolar... yes... but the condition itself? We don't know.

Imho, the kindling theory is just pushed by Pharma a lot and doesn't have that much of merit.
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Old Sep 14, 2014, 09:54 AM
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my dad was MUCH, MUCH worse when he was younger, due to drinking. He quit drinking and changed his lifestyle, eliminated all of his triggers and has been totally stable and med-free for almost 20 years. He uses lifestyle discipline instead of medication, and it works great for him.
So, it doesn't always get worse with age.
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Old Sep 14, 2014, 12:09 PM
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I was not diagnosed until age 63 by a competent psychiatrist. The fist psychiatrist just was not the right one. Maybe I hold the age in life being diagnose?
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Old Sep 15, 2014, 03:11 PM
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as for meds. There is recent article on PC about how benzos are linked to Alzheimers (so much for how they need to be part of your "rest of life" coctail if you suffer anxiety. APs can cause brain atrophy on top of other things.

Not saying don't take them, but really to sell them as "neuroprotective" as I seen some people do......... hard to believe that.


Plus, how many brains for unmedicated, but aware (hence not self-medicating and badly living) bipolars they scanned to be able to say BP damages the brain? I really don't think you can claim bipolar itself is some brain corrosion agent. Choices made due to bipolar... yes... but the condition itself? We don't know.

Imho, the kindling theory is just pushed by Pharma a lot and doesn't have that much of merit.
Yeah, I would guess that choices made due to bipolar cause more damage. But I don't know if bipolar, if left untreated, would continue to cause more damage along its pathways.

I could see how kindling theory would be pushed by Pharma in order to scare people into medding up, or overmedicating. Any theory pushed by Pharma a lot should instantly have its validity called into question.
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Cymbalta, 60mg -- for the depression.
Latuda, 40mg -- for the paranoia (delusional type).
Adderall, 40mg XR & 5 mg reg -- for the ADD.
Xanax, .5 mg as needed -- for the anxiety.
Topamax, 50mg -- still figuring this one out.

MDD, but possibly have some form of Bipolar Disorder. Then again, I could be paranoid . . .

Well, at least I still have my sense of humor.
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Old Sep 15, 2014, 03:15 PM
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my dad was MUCH, MUCH worse when he was younger, due to drinking. He quit drinking and changed his lifestyle, eliminated all of his triggers and has been totally stable and med-free for almost 20 years. He uses lifestyle discipline instead of medication, and it works great for him.
So, it doesn't always get worse with age.
Looking back at when I was drinking and some of the things I did, I'm surprised my therapist didn't diagnose me as bipolar. But I think she attributed things I did to my drinking, or to my depression, which I don't think is quite right for a few of those things.

I'm glad to hear your dad is doing so well. He must have a ton of discipline, and that's awesome.
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Cymbalta, 60mg -- for the depression.
Latuda, 40mg -- for the paranoia (delusional type).
Adderall, 40mg XR & 5 mg reg -- for the ADD.
Xanax, .5 mg as needed -- for the anxiety.
Topamax, 50mg -- still figuring this one out.

MDD, but possibly have some form of Bipolar Disorder. Then again, I could be paranoid . . .

Well, at least I still have my sense of humor.
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Old Sep 15, 2014, 03:16 PM
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I was not diagnosed until age 63 by a competent psychiatrist. The fist psychiatrist just was not the right one. Maybe I hold the age in life being diagnose?
Lol that does sound like a record!
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Cymbalta, 60mg -- for the depression.
Latuda, 40mg -- for the paranoia (delusional type).
Adderall, 40mg XR & 5 mg reg -- for the ADD.
Xanax, .5 mg as needed -- for the anxiety.
Topamax, 50mg -- still figuring this one out.

MDD, but possibly have some form of Bipolar Disorder. Then again, I could be paranoid . . .

Well, at least I still have my sense of humor.
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Old Sep 17, 2014, 02:51 PM
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I got worse as I got older. My old PDoc told me that going through severe mania and or psychosis actually causes physical changes to your brain. So once you go through one really bad episode it increases your chances of more frequent reoccurrences, which helps explain why it gets worse with age for many people.
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