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Old Jan 22, 2015, 04:22 PM
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hello

well the first side effect of pills for me i am turning back into a vampire (not a real blood drinker) but i am keeping those hours again

i have been going to sleep later and later at night now i am near 5 am before i will pass out and i am waking up between 2 to 4 pm in the afternoon

i tried altering it on my own .....meds in bed by 11 pm all that unless i go to sleep before 6 pm while sun is still up i can not sleep at night time

so am i doomed to be a vamp or is there some method u ppl know so u are awake in the day time

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Old Jan 22, 2015, 04:26 PM
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Can you try taking Trazodone at night to get to sleep?
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 04:27 PM
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That is a good suggestions angelique. From person experience trazedone was really helpful during my insomnia periods. You might try over the counter sleep aids as well, or speak to your doc about a prescription to help you sleep.
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 04:38 PM
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Can you try taking Trazodone at night to get to sleep?
tried it
50 mgs
100mgs
150mgs
nothing but yawns it will not shut the mind down so i can stop thinking
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 04:40 PM
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I have a muscle relaxer called Tizanidine that knocks me out too. Maybe you could try that?

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Old Jan 22, 2015, 04:49 PM
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I have a muscle relaxer called Tizanidine that knocks me out too. Maybe you could try that?

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i will ask next time the doctor sees me

currently i have to take seroguil to knock out the mind to sleep .......the pdoc does not want to write me a script for it .....since it is not a FDA approved treatment for sleep but it is a off label use

the pdoc only wants to treat me for the mood stabilization (nothing else) state run insurance
trileptal .......900 mgs a day
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 06:09 PM
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i will ask next time the doctor sees me

currently i have to take seroguil to knock out the mind to sleep .......the pdoc does not want to write me a script for it .....since it is not a FDA approved treatment for sleep but it is a off label use

the pdoc only wants to treat me for the mood stabilization (nothing else) state run insurance
trileptal .......900 mgs a day

You have bipolar and he wont give you seroquel!? Thats crazy..it seems to be a favorite with my doc. He can write its to compliment the mood stabilizer for delusions or whatever!
The biggest thing is changing the bad habit of your inner clock. Do not sleep during the day no matter what and stay away from caffeine then take whatever u can at night
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 08:12 PM
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You have bipolar and he wont give you seroquel!? Thats crazy..it seems to be a favorite with my doc. He can write its to compliment the mood stabilizer for delusions or whatever!
The biggest thing is changing the bad habit of your inner clock. Do not sleep during the day no matter what and stay away from caffeine then take whatever u can at night
i do not like this doctor all that much .......the primary care doctor is the one that gave me the seroguil and some lorezpam (the pam i only take if i am forced into public places for any extend period of time) 30 pills of the pam and i still have 18 of them more then 45 days ago

i tried resetting the clock but the trouble is every time the sun goes down i get energy (like a second wind type of thing) i will lay in bed in the dark for 4 hours after that i say screw it get up and do work/projects/beat a video game/learn something on a random subject

resetting the clock means about 48 to 56 hours awake before my mind will shut up at night.....even on seroguil it get that 2nd wind effect and i am up until 4/5 am ....been taken 50 mgs cutting 100 mg pill in half
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 08:49 PM
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I used to stay up through the next day.
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 09:06 PM
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Melatonin can help the resetting of the clock. But the real problem is your overactive mind. I would force yourself to a schedule like that which you have for a job. Nothing like getting up early in the morning to promote sleep later in the evening. Exersize may,help. FWIW
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Old Jan 22, 2015, 10:52 PM
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I second melatonin. Its always helped me when I have a reverse sleep cycle.

Whats your sleep hygiene like? Do you have a routine at bedtime? Sleepytime extra tea can be helpful.

It might suck for a few weeks but basically go to bed the same time every single night and wake up the same time every single day. Even if you dont sleep at night, it doesnt matter, you are still resting your body. Do not allow yourself to sleep during the day. Every morning if you are in a place it is possible, go out side for 10 minutes and soak up the day light. It can be tough for some people but it works.

It might be helpful to you to start practicing meditation. It may help you slow your mind at bed time. It takes a lot of practice but dont give up - it is worth it.

This method works better than any meds I ever tried, and a few years ago I tried everything.
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Old Jan 23, 2015, 12:11 AM
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I used to be a vampire, still can be if I don't stay on my toes. Turning everything off an hour before I try to sleep and only reading helped as did 5 minute nothingness. Just sitting and focusing on my breathing, it's hard to empty the mind but I didn't force it and it kept getting easier.
Last is melatonin to reset the carcadian rhythms, you need to take it in the afternoon so it starts working.
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Old Jan 23, 2015, 12:30 AM
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I use valium on a semi regular basis. When my sleeping patterns start to go out of wack, I will take valium for a week to get to sleep at a decent time then stop using them again. Doing this I can usually get my sleep patterns corrected and they last for several months before having to do it again
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