should kids be medicated and in special education or medicated?

Mar 13, 2015, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Supanova

Yes some kids do need meds but I have rather large concerns about anyone under the age of 25 being lumped with antipsychotics that are untested for that age group. (Not in relation to psychosis - unless it is BPD psychosis)

i agree.... i am under 25 and the psychiatrist i saw when i was IP doled out antipsychotics like they were sugar pills. in my whole stay i'd had Olanzepine, Risperidal and Quetiapine, pretty high doses too.

unaluna · Mar 13, 2015, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by venusss

should kids be medicated and in special education or medicated?

the very basics of emotional education. it requires practice and it does work,

Boy i needed these last week when i wanted to hurt the drunk lady talking out loud in the movie theater!! After talking to t about it, i realized i felt alone with no one to help me or stand up for me or care about me or defend me. Which is how things were when i was a child. But now my "family" is my t, and even pc, in a way - i know you guys have my emotional back. You want my story to end well.

Sorry for the sidetrack hijack.

divine1966 · Mar 13, 2015, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Supanova

This is where I get so confused and frustrated. According to every pdoc I have had (around 8 -12 different opinions) not a single one referred to mood changes through out the day as rapid cycling. I actually looked up the meaning of rapid cycling in my psychiatrist dictionary and it is not even in there!!! I think many people miss use that label as it does NOT mean cycling within one day - that is NOT bipolar (unless you are the tiny percent that have ultradian cycles).

That is where DBT, IOP, intensive therapy etc is needed for these kids - NOT medicated to the eyeballs. Yes some kids do need meds but I have rather large concerns about anyone under the age of 25 being lumped with antipsychotics that are untested for that age group. (Not in relation to psychosis - unless it is BPD psychosis)

Still very early in the morning here and I have lost my train of thought, but keep up the discussion it is very interesting.

I never said rapid cycling is mood changing though the day. These are two separate statements. One is that someone is rapid cycling and the other that if she doesn't take Meds she had hard time functioning. Two different pieces of information.

We can discuss merits of medication and diagnosis etc but unless we are medically trained ours are just general public's opinions. There are people who flat refuse to take Meds or give them to their kids and then there are those who over medicate and etc etc many were against Meds but after years of struggle eventually realized there is no other way if one wants to function.

I am not a doctor. If somebody had medical diagnosis and had Meds prescribed, it would be ridiculous of me to argue.

It isn't all black and white

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divine1966 · Mar 13, 2015, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 8888an8888

it really depends on the child...

Yup!

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venusss · Mar 13, 2015, 05:49 PM

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I never said rapid cycling is mood changing though the day. These are two separate statements. One is that someone is rapid cycling and the other that if she doesn't take Meds she had hard time functioning. Two different pieces of information.

Do you realize that forgetting to take meds and feeling really bad because of it is rather a symptom of withdrawal from the meds, rather than the illness itself?

ChaoticSymphony · Mar 13, 2015, 06:25 PM

After seeing my 6 yr so distraught and hearing him talk about ending his life I took him off his adhd med right then and there. I think it was concerta or something like that. When the med was gone the darkness left with it.
Now that meds are not an option the school works with my son amazingly. He is doing well, good grades and an all around happy kid.

Sorry I can't answer the op question because it's such a personal thing as it is with adults and meds.

scatterbrained04 · Mar 13, 2015, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaoticSymphony

After seeing my 6 yr so distraught and hearing him talk about ending his life I took him off his adhd med right then and there. I think it was concerta or something like that.

Concerta made mine VERY aggressive on about day 5/6. Took him right back off it. Seems like so many have trouble with it, but it also seems like it's one of the first prescribed?

ChaoticSymphony · Mar 13, 2015, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by scatterbrained04

Concerta made mine VERY aggressive on about day 5/6. Took him right back off it. Seems like so many have trouble with it, but it also seems like it's one of the first prescribed?

This is embarrassing but I was truthful with his pediatrician about past drug use and my hubs and I agreed (ugh) that Ritalin couldn't be in the house. That was his first choice before learning of my addictions.

Mar 13, 2015, 07:21 PM

I can tell ya all about the symptoms of withdrawls! Been horrid the last few days, not just mentally but physically painful.

Sorry I misunderstood your post re rapid cycling throught the day. I just constantly see people claiming rapid cycling incorrectly.

Mar 13, 2015, 09:00 PM

They tried to diagnose my son with all different things. Wanted to medicate him too. I didn't and he is 19 now and doing pretty good. Working and in college. He hasn't been all that great in college, but it's bc he doesn't want to get up, lol. He's gonna take later classes next semester.

I think kids are too over medicated anymore...

Mar 13, 2015, 09:10 PM

I should add it was teachers that wanted him medicated, only one pdoc did. He was just a normal kid. But they wanted to say a adhd, and oppositional defiant disorder. He was angry, and had every right to be. His grandma had just died. He didn't know how to deal with it, so he acted out.

But I'm not a psychiatrist, I would do what your gut tells you...

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