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Old Aug 31, 2015, 09:08 AM
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Hello all. I did a search on this forum and it appears that no one has taken
SAM-e to help with depression. I just did for seven days and whilst it made me slightly hyopomanic. I feel great !.

gone is my depression, hypersomnia, I am motivated and productive
Let me know if you try it. It has certainly helped me.

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Old Aug 31, 2015, 11:00 AM
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Do you have bipolar? Just wondering because it says its not good for bipolar bc of triggering mania.
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Old Aug 31, 2015, 11:53 AM
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[Hi there and thanks for your reply.

you are right it is not recommended for people with Bipolar.

I was diagnosed Bipolar 2 on 24/12/04 after a lifetime of ADD symptoms
and two major episodes of mania with auditory and visual halucinations and then a huge crash into depression.
these were almost 15 years apart. I have a very slow cycle.

I have seen a psychiatrist (p/doc) twice some eleven years ago and have been depressed ever since. I take 5mg of Olanzapine every day.

currently I have seen my doctor who is reluctant to give me an anti-depressant because of the risk of mania. I agree with her.

So in my frustration and after ten years of depression and my brain almost
shutting down (hibernation) I am light sensitive so my condition is worse in winter (S.A. D) I decided to try SAM-e I did not realise that it was not recommended for those with Bipolar. I have been hypomanic once for five weeks (01/5/14) since being diagnosed and I loved every minute of it.

I took 400mg for 7 days and was experiencing hypomania for the first three days along with some slight stomach aches. This then faded but I discontinued SAM-e on the eighth day just to see what happens.
So far my depression has disappeared , my motivation is up, my brain is alive and I feel great.The hypomania has subsided and Its like I am a new person.

There is a great tendency especially in the usa for health proffesionals
to not recommend products in fear they might be on the end of a law suit
because of side effects from drugs or even suicide.

I can only say what this supplement has done for me so far.
(watch this space.) Sam-e is a naturally occuring chemical in the body all
I have done is give my brain chemicals is a helping hand.
I also believe that Olanzapine puts a ceiling on hypomania to stop full blown mania. but who knows.

If you don't like the results then discontinue this supplement.
what have you got to loose ?

Google How does SAM-e work and do some research. ( see article in Psychiatric times)

good luck !

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Old Aug 31, 2015, 12:03 PM
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I think youre absolutely right, I may have to give it a try. When im depressed I have to drink at least 3 cups of coffee throughout the day just to make it thru..but am left with feeling some jitters which exacerbates my anxiety. Ill research more but can u tell me first hand if it makes you jittery at all? I understand its a naturally occuring chemical in the body but wondered if theres any kind of side affect like that for you? Thank you, and to clarify I wasnt being a smarta** and telling u something u already know..was just saying thats prob why u dont see mmluch of it around here...that and also i have actually never heard of it before
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Old Aug 31, 2015, 02:05 PM
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Hi again !. Yes I think it made me a little jittery although that might have been the coffee I had as well. I felt really high (HYPOMANIC) for three or four days and then I calmed down. But the depression had lifted.
Its like I have a faulty switch in my brain that needed a little nudge.

Im no expert but I am now as calm and relaxed but firing on all cylinders.
day five ,six ,seven and now eight and I feel better and better.
But im still using coffee to wake me up.

I am going to try Modafinil to replace the coffee

good luck

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Old Sep 01, 2015, 11:36 AM
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I think youre absolutely right, I may have to give it a try. When im depressed I have to drink at least 3 cups of coffee throughout the day just to make it thru..but am left with feeling some jitters which exacerbates my anxiety. Ill research more but can u tell me first hand if it makes you jittery at all? I understand its a naturally occuring chemical in the body but wondered if theres any kind of side affect like that for you? Thank you, and to clarify I wasnt being a smarta** and telling u something u already know..was just saying thats prob why u dont see mmluch of it around here...that and also i have actually never heard of it before
Hi again. my SAM-e update.
I took it for 7 days 4oomg and now believe that this was way too much.
As I said I was hypomanic for the first three days but then slowly came down .on the fifth day I took half a tablet in the morning and half in the afternoon but returned to 400 mg in the morning on days six and seven.
I had a bit too much energy and my brain was on fire.
After the seventh day I stopped for days 8,9,10 and I still felt great.
On day 12 (TODAY) I started to feel a bit tired so I took half a tablet 200mg in the afternoon I am now completely relaxed and feeling fine.
Many people on web sites are commenting that manufacturers recommend way to much dosage to start with.
I am going to buy some 200mg SAM-e as cutting the 400mg tablets is not a good idea as they are coated and are specifically meant to be used whole.

good luck
I hope this helps.

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I'd like to try it. I just can't shake this mild depression. I'm functional but unhappy. And it may be circumstantial and nothing will change but it's worth a try. I'll talk to my pdoc about it.

Back in 2006 I was hospitalized for severe depression. Because I od'd on all of my meds and because I wasn't eating more than a piece of bread a day, the original dr would not give me any kind of medication. When I was transferred to a different hospital he wanted to put me on DHEA and Sam-e. I was so messed up at the time that I just screamed at him and told him to get out of my room...but it would have been interesting to see if it worked. I just wasn't in a place to do it.
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Hello all. I did a search on this forum and it appears that no one has taken
SAM-e to help with depression. I just did for seven days and whilst it made me slightly hyopomanic. I feel great !.

gone is my depression, hypersomnia, I am motivated and productive
Let me know if you try it. It has certainly helped me.

fingers1
You can get a severe stomach upset when getting off of it and you have to be careful while on any meds that mess with your seretonin levels like antidepressants. It can give you toxicity when levels get too high

Sam-e works like prozac

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Old Sep 07, 2015, 03:06 AM
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Hi all !. Just a an update on my Bipolar 2, ADD situation.

Stopped taking 400mg SAM-e as I went hypomanic for a few days
I felt great as usual when hypomanic.

Slowly came down from hypomania after ten days but still felt really good.

My depression, chronic fatigue, low energy and motivation have completely changed. I feel like a new man !

I intend to restart SAM-e at a much lower dose if things take a turn for the worse.

It is now the 7th sept I have been off SAM-e for over a week and I am still feeling good. My depression has disappeared !

Im relaxed and comfortable.

Slightly annoyed but greatfull I tried SAM-e as I had been depressed for ten years.

The minor side effects (stomach aches) have all been worth it.
Allways take vitamin B12 and folic acid with this supplement.

I would be very carefull if you are tempted to try SAM_e if you are Bipolar 1
because of the potential to cause mania.


I will keep you posted with further updates. Watch this space.

I will be posting this under Bipolar success stories soon.

I still cant believe this has happened to me.

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