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Old Nov 12, 2015, 06:35 AM
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I've noticed that during bouts of mania I tend to be somewhat manipulative of people. When my mind starts craving that excitement, that high, I start looking for people that could satisfy it. A lot of the times this makes me feel somehow despicable afterwards. Consciously, I disagree with the idea that other people are playthings for one's entertainment. It has never gone too far apart from a good time, but there is this feeling like people are puzzles that once I crack I can re-direct them however I want.
Does anyone else have this or is it a me problem?
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Old Nov 12, 2015, 06:45 AM
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I don't feel any malicious thoughts when manic. I might be blunt and come off as a *****, but it is not to manipulate.
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Old Nov 12, 2015, 07:08 AM
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I don't feel any malicious thoughts when manic. I might be blunt and come off as a *****, but it is not to manipulate.
These thoughts I speak of are not malicious exactly. I have never considered harming another or causing him to get into trouble. The "manipulation" extends to the degree the other person allows. Just needed to clear that up.
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Old Nov 12, 2015, 10:13 AM
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If it really is mania-related, my best guess is that it falls under the category of grandiosity, as far as perceiving that one can skillfully control other people, and then that "everything is connected" mentality that can make one feel like everything happened for a reason, in this case due to their own clever manipulations. I've read it a few times that mania can present a lot like narcissism in some individuals due to the grandiosity factor.
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Old Nov 12, 2015, 10:21 AM
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If it really is mania-related, my best guess is that it falls under the category of grandiosity, as far as perceiving that one can skillfully control other people, and then that "everything is connected" mentality that can make one feel like everything happened for a reason, in this case due to their own clever manipulations. I've read it a few times that mania can present a lot like narcissism in some individuals due to the grandiosity factor.
I never really got to researching this aspect and it does make a lot of sense for it to be connected to grandiosity. Thanks for this.
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Old Nov 12, 2015, 10:23 AM
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When manic I wouldn't describe myself as manipulative but I DO surround myself with people who's personalities aren't as strong as my own at the time. I would say I'm a touch narccistic when I am extremely high as I do become rather full of myself, thinking I'm the master of my own destiny.
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Old Nov 12, 2015, 12:23 PM
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I can be, although I don't believe it's intentional. When I was manic once for instance, I insisted my husband lay hands on everyone in our immediate family to pray for them like I was doing. He was NEVER comfortable with this but complied out of my total persistence. We would go around the room with my kids and us praying like this. He knew I was insane but was too intimidated by my power house faith to say anything.
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Old Nov 12, 2015, 03:17 PM
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I manipulate women when I'm manic, mainly/always for sexual purposes. It's a big problem for me when I'm hyper. Another glorious side of this illness lol
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When I'm manic I deal with grandiosity Manipulation is one along with thinking I can do the impossible. I think my s*** don't stink. The more I get over the worse I get.

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Old Nov 12, 2015, 04:16 PM
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When I'm manic I deal with grandiosity Manipulation is one along with thinking I can do the impossible. I think my s*** don't stink. The more I get over the worse I get.

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Old Nov 12, 2015, 06:43 PM
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I definitely get grandiose. My intelligence gets overblown and I come off as a very TYPE A personalty. This has caused me some problems with other "strong" women in my life. I become very much a leader.

But I am more stubborn and blunt and truth oriented than manipulative.
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Old Nov 12, 2015, 07:39 PM
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As a female, I'm pretty sure I have manipulated a few males when I was younger to get what I wanted!
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Old Nov 12, 2015, 09:19 PM
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No. Not ever really. I tend to consider well how to best to present something to a given person, but it is about figuring my words out (to not get flustered in actually talking) and to tailor it to the person's particular traits. It's about getting along though. And aiming to not rankle them, so that they might actually listen. Without considering like this, I almost always regret what or how I said something (and see/hear it over and over and over it plays in my head... Ugh). (All bets are off what I will say when up, but it'll be obnoxious or embarassing, not manipulative.

I can't even really control myself, let alone other people(!). :-/
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Old Nov 13, 2015, 08:12 AM
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This made me laugh.

LOL. Really I'm terrible. I think I know "err thang" I'm hyped up...getting turnt is my fav thing

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Old Nov 13, 2015, 12:18 PM
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Because my husband is codependent I find it easier to manipulate him when I'm manic. I hate doing that to him later, but at the time whatever I'm thinking is a grand task that needs to get done yesterday.

I also have a hard time defining having a good self-esteem versus feeling narcissistic. I've always had problems with self-esteem but then I get really grandiose and think I've conquered it.
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Old Nov 14, 2015, 05:52 PM
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I'm consider myself an honest person, but lies just come automatically if I'm fully-blown manic.
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Old Nov 14, 2015, 08:13 PM
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When i am manic I feel alot.....just not for other people. I am singularly fixated on me and what I want. I have started flings that were for fun but looked more serious to the other party
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Old Nov 14, 2015, 10:02 PM
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manic or not I do not know ... but I can and do control my attitude and mannerisms to manipulate others ... every day every way ... it is what those like me are destined to do ... and also the reason I avoid people like the plague ...
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Old Nov 15, 2015, 04:23 PM
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When I'm in a high mood I'm extremely manipulative. I'm not sure what causes it though, because I also have BPD. I just want to get what I want when I want it, no matter what. I have lied and screwed over whomever necessary to get what I wanted. I guess that's more along the lines of BPD. I feel bad after I come down though, unless it was a stranger. Then I try to justify my actions to myself.
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Old Nov 16, 2015, 09:37 PM
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omg! I am the same way! I have a high IQ and EQ and when I want to, I can manipulate anyone for anything.

I've only used my powers for good and a'ways will.
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Old Nov 18, 2015, 06:15 AM
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I can be very sexually "persuasive" do that count as manipulative? lol
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Old Dec 09, 2015, 11:20 AM
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Ah yes, I am manipulative when manic. Not that I try and get anyone to do anything they shouldn't be...
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