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Mar 05, 2016, 08:19 PM
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Ok I know I ***** about my bf a lot here lol. But he does bring up some good questions between his ignorant thoughts...A few months ago when I was, yet again, trying to explain MI's to him, he asked "ok but how was it treated 100yrs ago!?" All I said was "look at all the closed down psych wards and all the texts about bad treatment and torture!, would you like a lobotomy?" My grandma put my aunt in a state MI ward because she was "acting up". That was probably in the 60's. But how did they treat MI way back when? I imagine is wasn't good! Hell, we ***** about IP NOW... After the articles and documentaries I've seen, IP now is a friggin vacation! So I'm curious... What do you guys know about it? What's your take on it and how does it make you feel?
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Mar 05, 2016, 08:20 PM
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ugh ... take two rocks and call me in the morning ...
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Mar 05, 2016, 08:39 PM
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Biblically speaking (which is, at least, generally historically correct) they were treated as though they were demon possessed and therefore outcast.
I am not sharing this as an attempt to convert or preach to anyone, it's just an example of mental illness before it was recognized as such:
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Mar 05, 2016, 08:49 PM
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It was treated different throughout the ages. But it's been in the history books forever. Lithium salt baths exorcism locking them up cold bath treatments wrapping them tight in blankets then of course lobotomy the list goes on!
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Mar 05, 2016, 08:52 PM
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Well, some say if Jesus came back today he'd be shot (I mean a hippie like man that looks like Syrian refugees? Wouldn't fly well with many "Christians").
I say he'd end up on multiple APs. Maybe he is there somewhere, fat zombie that sleeps 16 hours a day and hopelessly stutters and eat the remaining 8 hours. Empty eyes in which only very good observer can see a glimmer of his former brilliance. Just saying, not having the standard "treatment" where every teeny weeny symptom including LIFE itself is an "illness" that needs to be drugged away and if you have side effects, there's more drugs for that.... not having such "treatment" is not always a bad thing.
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Mar 05, 2016, 08:52 PM
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My guess is that MI served some purpose, maybe sacred, artistic, visionary, practical. It would take some pretty radical thinking to invent cave painting or rotisserie cooking or any of the fundamental human discoveries. (Totally making this up.)
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Mar 05, 2016, 08:55 PM
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My great grandmother was in a mental Institution. The stories are sad. Some could do ok without any tx some could not. Most died young
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Mar 05, 2016, 08:58 PM
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Lol @ venusss reply! "I say he'd end up on multiple APs". Sorry I'm not religious as all. Found that funny.
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Mar 05, 2016, 09:05 PM
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Of course they don't talk about these in highschool history class. And if they did then chances are i slept through it because of the Prozac I was put on.
But I imagine it wasn't pretty. I imagine we probably got fed to lions or stoned to death (I was pretty stoned to death back then too though).  Edit: wow and I thought my mental health team wasn't taking care of me now. Thank god I wasn't born back then. Unless I lived in a past life and was BP then too? But that's a whole nother topic for a whole diff thread some day lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Last edited by ComfortablyNumb5; Mar 05, 2016 at 09:18 PM. |
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Mar 05, 2016, 09:08 PM
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It's dependent upon the culture that the MI person was living in. In Asia they used herbs and acupuncture but also thought it could be demons. In some Native tribe cultures the MI person was considered touched by the gods and taken care of by others. I think that mostly they were, just like today, they were feared and ostracized.
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Mar 05, 2016, 09:25 PM
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"I was stoned to death back then too" 
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Mar 05, 2016, 09:37 PM
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I also fully recognize that mental illness is not demon possession or work of the devil despite having demons cast from me and preacher like ministers lay hands on me and speak in tongues to try to heal me and send away anything unclean inside of me (more than once). That was, of course, only out of my parents desperation as no treatments holistic and traditional were working. This was a stretch from my mom who was willing to try about anything. I still question the need for medication in me at times because I am unwell both on meds and off. So, I partially feel there is no point in potentially poisoning my body. In this way, I understand the point that you frequently visit. Anyway, I'm sorry for hijacking this thread. I didn't mean to add religion to it, just the historic belief that mental illness was demon possession.
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Mar 05, 2016, 09:52 PM
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^^ don't worry cashart, no hijacking done. I believe back then that religion has a lot to do with the treatment of the MI. Thanks for giving your input. Very interesting !
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Mar 06, 2016, 08:20 AM
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There's a famous woman writer but I can't remember her name. ( thanks again ECT.
I studied her when I worked for 4 yrs in a mental hospital. I do remember some pretty cruel treatment like digging a hole and tossing the person in. 2000 yrs ago, I would say most were killed. Not sure though.
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