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Remind me why I am even bothering to take this medication when I still seem to be up and down and all around....nothing extreme though. I feel like I went on the medication because I was having an 'episode' of mania that was becoming overwhelming and destructive. I feel like these episodes are few and far between, so why can't I just stop the medication now and begin anew the next time I have a major episode? It just seems pointless.
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I hear you!
My struggles have gotten worse since I got diagnosed and started treating my "illness". I don't know if that comes from an awareness and thus a fearful consuming obsession or from the painful progression of a progressive disease? I'm likely to never settle on an answer, but I do know that I want to give up sometimes(most times). And I very much long for the emotional freedom I once had. There was a time when I didn't live on eggshells. I want my life back. I know I can't have it. I can't go off meds without everyone I know gasping in horror. That says something, no? Selective amnesia is a part of this mess. When not symptomatic it feels as though it never actually existed. It's a brain trick that's worse than the other pains. Take your meds, and I'll take mine. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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You can develop a tolerance quicker when you discontinue meds. But it depends on the type of med. The biggest problem might be your inability to know when you might need meds. If you use antidepressants/anxiolytics, I would stop taking them. They don't prevent anything, they only create tolerance and might cause one type of anxiety (I'd say one might distinguish between two types, both at extreme ends of some "stimulation dimension"). Antidepressants/anxiolytics might cause understimulation, causing fear/anxiety and/or a feeling of something akin to nihilism, emotional detachment (not conscious distancing, something you can train yourself to do, most probably, which would be preferable, I'd say). You might turn into something like a sociopath. Prozac killings might be a good example.
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Mania kills cells. Brain cells die. Memories become more reduced conceptually, making more efficient use of limited means. Memories shape our reality. Our memories are more or less split in two by abstractions, conceptual reductions. Mood states with memories, concepts, attached. Memories of pain and those of joy. It causes instability, changeability. Fearing that will leave an emptiness between pain and joy and a greater divide. See Me, Feel Me, Touch Me, Heal Me. |
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All I know is I would stop taking them, for the reasons I gave. It may "cause" you to do very damaging things. Depression is good that way: hopefully you're not in a state to do anything like that. But it may work for you. I don't see how, but (here we go!) I'm not a doctor. My favourite PC phrase (double meaning intended). ![]()
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Mania kills cells. Brain cells die. Memories become more reduced conceptually, making more efficient use of limited means. Memories shape our reality. Our memories are more or less split in two by abstractions, conceptual reductions. Mood states with memories, concepts, attached. Memories of pain and those of joy. It causes instability, changeability. Fearing that will leave an emptiness between pain and joy and a greater divide. See Me, Feel Me, Touch Me, Heal Me. |
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Is it possible that by being on the medication, you are having fewer "episodes"? Very rarely are there perfect answers to the illnesses we suffer. Granted, there are times we need to try different meds, different ways of doing things to find what works best for ourselves.
Going off a med without discussing it with your pdoc and titrating down off the dosage may send you into a horrible downward spiral, one that you won't enjoy either mentally or possibly physically either. No matter what you decide, please be safe and talk with your pdoc first. ![]() |
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I know that it simply wouldn't return just because I were to stop the meds. I ruined it all forever. So now, like a good girl, I take my medication. I dream of the day I might have a glimpse of my old life and make do with what it has become. I get the reminders all the time of my former life; not just the good but how it all came crashing down. |
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I feel similar right now. Staying on medication forever, for temporary problems feels so strange. But, I need to be well for my family. I have lots of reminders of my recent behaviors to carry me on this medication road for awhile. I realize it might take awhile, but if I'm lucky, I will find something which prevents the ups and downs from happening. My family is better with me, than without me. It's not easy, but nothing in this life is. It will hopefully get easier in time, for both of us. (((Hugs)))
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As someone who was hurt more than helped by meds this past year, I say trust your gut feeling. We know what is best for ourselves. If you feel that one of your meds is hurting you, go off it, and don't let anyone disuade you.
I wish I would have done that sooner. I feel much better now that I trusted my gut feeling, instead of listening to everyone who was telling me not to go off the meds I knew weren't helping.
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BP doesn't necessarily get progressively worse. It can, but more likely not.
It's what separates BP from SZ (or dementia praecox), in theory. There were no meds when this division was made. Seeing ourselves as victims for life can become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Deciding to take meds doesn't mean you have to buy into that crap as well. Becoming self-sufficient is important. Incorporating BP into your volitional/conscious and deliberate behaviour, into stable behaviour, is important. If you use it, you defuse it. Replace the involuntary dissociation of mania and depression with a deliberate and conscious (partial) dissociation of emotion and thoughts and behaviour. Only observe your emotions and how you'd react and find out the reason behind it. Care less. Associate all/many important things of past periods of mania, derive a common theme, activity and goal and focus on that. BP is in essence helpful given the circumstances. BP is an escape. Do escape, but stay grounded.
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Mania kills cells. Brain cells die. Memories become more reduced conceptually, making more efficient use of limited means. Memories shape our reality. Our memories are more or less split in two by abstractions, conceptual reductions. Mood states with memories, concepts, attached. Memories of pain and those of joy. It causes instability, changeability. Fearing that will leave an emptiness between pain and joy and a greater divide. See Me, Feel Me, Touch Me, Heal Me. |
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