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Old May 22, 2016, 08:58 AM
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Are you ever manic such that you can't really think and can only do one thing or only a few things, repeatedly?

You can't really move beyond a certain area, maybe a room or part of a room or your house.

It may border on or include, catatonia, but it's mostly more elaborate. But it's like catatonia in that you truly feel like you can't do anything else. Ok, it may be mild.

Maybe listening to the same song repeatedly is an example, but anything rather impulsive (or interfering) and something you just did (or continuing what you're doing) or that you often and effortlessly do, without (much) thinking. There may be anxiety.

It may happen with depression, but then you still feel (lots of anxiety only), likely, and you don't do much because of impulse control and impulses meant not to prolong but to end (what you do and how you feel).

They may be two sides of the same coin.
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Old May 22, 2016, 01:49 PM
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Is this really foreign to you? It could be a schizoaffective thing or just me, but is it?

Or is it obvious? Or maybe I really can't make myself clear now.

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Please just say "No never like that.", "You talk even more rubbish than usual." or anything. Then I might have a better idea how to improve the situation.
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Old May 22, 2016, 07:03 PM
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When I am manic, sometimes I will pace incessantly and not even realize I am doing it. Also, (very bizarre) I have retreated to the basement and prayed passionately/in tongues until The Lord told me to stop. Oh, and I have thought that my shower water is holy water and stayed in for hours praying and casting out demons.

That's all I can think of for now.
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Old May 22, 2016, 07:48 PM
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I'm not sure if this is what you mean. I went manic from drug use years ago. I locked myself in my bedroom for a month. It had a bathroom attached and people brought me food. The only thing I did while in there was call and talk to random strangers whose number I found in the phone book. So embarrassing to think about now. I hope this information is helpful to you.
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Old May 23, 2016, 04:03 AM
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I'm not sure if this is what you mean. I went manic from drug use years ago. I locked myself in my bedroom for a month. It had a bathroom attached and people brought me food. The only thing I did while in there was call and talk to random strangers whose number I found in the phone book. So embarrassing to think about now. I hope this information is helpful to you.
Yes and no, it's less irrationally rational, maybe, so to speak. Just irrational. Not a rationalisation and barely if at all, a belief, assumption. You don't or can't think much.

It's more like the pacing. No realisation. But the praying and calling random numbers would probably be quite like it.

The showering with holy water may be like it in that it is very much the right thing to do. A need as well as a satisfaction. The praying might be like that as well.

It's all a bit like that yes, but not for months. More like hours.

Maybe you could say it's meditative. So praying might be similar in that respect.

Thanks for sharing your experiences. It helps to reflect on my own experiences. It might all be very much similar to yours.



I'm doing better now. Like the circus reached its finale and today will be all peaceful, calm, serene and easy-going.

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Oh, and I do have something similar with showering. Sometimes quite but never extremely severe, less rationalised but I do belief it's good and I need to keep showering, at least for a considerable time, sometimes 1 or more hours.
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Old May 23, 2016, 08:37 AM
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This is how I've been feeling over the past few days. So revved up in my mind and body that I can't do anything. Incapacitating "fear" as well.
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Old May 23, 2016, 09:22 AM
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This is how I've been feeling over the past few days. So revved up in my mind and body that I can't do anything. Incapacitating "fear" as well.
Yes, I can relate and understand. But for me, the anxiety dissipates, probably by something psychotic, it's transformed into an irrational state, too stateful (as in devoid of elaborate, slow dynamics, like rationality; apparently stuck in a moment/state) to turn into delusional thinking or (maybe, even) hallucinations, just behaviour. Sometimes the behaviour is so simple it's catatonic.

But still there can be fear. But then it is more delusional and hallucinatory too, in my experience. It appears similar to derealisation, but it is different because you really can't think.

It's (like or a form of) thought-blocking.

It can be depressive (but highly anxious), non-affective and manic, in my experience.
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Old May 23, 2016, 11:49 AM
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Yes, I can relate and understand. But for me, the anxiety dissipates, probably by something psychotic, it's transformed into an irrational state, too stateful (as in devoid of elaborate, slow dynamics, like rationality; apparently stuck in a moment/state) to turn into delusional thinking or (maybe, even) hallucinations, just behaviour. Sometimes the behaviour is so simple it's catatonic.

But still there can be fear. But then it is more delusional and hallucinatory too, in my experience. It appears similar to derealisation, but it is different because you really can't think.

It's (like or a form of) thought-blocking.

It can be depressive (but highly anxious), non-affective and manic, in my experience.
I definitely have problems with delusions that rise out of anxieties and fears, some issues with PTSD. For me unfortunately I haven"t had long lasting success with anti-psychotic medications. I really thought risperdal was going to be the one, but even at increased dosages, the beneficial effects weren't happening anymore.

I get so stuck in my head at times. So many different streams of thoughts all at the same time that nothing happens. Sometimes my face will shake too when I am in this state (manic/mixed whatever).

I've really been wanting to find ways to channel this energy into something productive.
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And as for halluncinatory experiences, nothing major. Lots of buzzing noises, weird drumming, always seeing *something* out of the corner of my eye, and light around people.
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Old May 23, 2016, 11:59 AM
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And as for halluncinatory experiences, nothing major. Lots of buzzing noises, weird drumming, always seeing *something* out of the corner of my eye, and light around people.
Once when hypomanic, years ago, I had a light around me, it was photographed and someone pointed it out to me.

True story.
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