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Old Jun 04, 2016, 03:20 PM
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So I'm newly semi-diagnosed with BP NOS (semi because my T thinks we can handle this withoud medication for a start and my insurance doesn't need to know bc they already are paying for trauma)

I'm currently in a high phase (so I am told) and I sometimes have problems to empathize with others. Now I am wondering if this is normal.
My thoughts are everywhere but by the people close to me. I feel like I have more important things to do and I am more annoyed if someone want's to be comforted than normally. And it's strange because on the one side I experience everything so intens, but at the same time it seems kind of self centered? I am sort of an activist, fighting for peoples right, but it's more of a "I think this is right" level then based on empathie.

When I'm low level depressed I'm the complete opposite. I feel Weltschmerz and have to avoid news because everything hurts like I would experience it myself.

Does anyone else have similar experiences?

[I apologise for all mistakes in this text. I had a few drinks tonight and english is not my first language]
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Old Jun 04, 2016, 03:41 PM
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Yes, I do relate to this very much.
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Old Jun 04, 2016, 03:42 PM
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I understand what you're going through, and yes, I think many individuals with BP experience both sides of the spectrum. In my opinion, it's easier to be apathetic. It's not as draining. When you empathize with others, your emotions become a rollercoaster ride. Anything can trigger fits of crying or anger.

When you're apathetic, I feel like that could go hand-in-hand with depression, irritability and hostility. Then again, I've gone through hypomanic phases where I have also been apathetic since I'm so concentrated on my own well-being.

Like I said, it's a rollercoaster ride for sure!
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Old Jun 04, 2016, 06:20 PM
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I can relate. I think at least part of it (for me at least) is that you literally can't relate because you're feeling good and seeing things positively. For me when I was hypomanic, it was like I'd look at problems people had and feel like they weren't a big deal, not in a mean way but in a, "nooo, can't you see? Everything's fine don't worry let's go be happy woowooo!" sorta way.
Then when I'm depressed, I perceive things more negatively and assume all other people are feeling/seeing things the same way I am (or worse), and think that even a small problem must be really painful for them. I think it's kind of like how people say that people who've been depressed are often the ones who are most empathetic and don't want to see others hurting because they know how it feels... When you're manic, it's kinda almost the opposite because everything's good and you almost forget how ****** things can feel.
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Old Jun 04, 2016, 06:43 PM
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I can relate. I think at least part of it (for me at least) is that you literally can't relate because you're feeling good and seeing things positively. For me when I was hypomanic, it was like I'd look at problems people had and feel like they weren't a big deal, not in a mean way but in a, "nooo, can't you see? Everything's fine don't worry let's go be happy woowooo!" sorta way.
Then when I'm depressed, I perceive things more negatively and assume all other people are feeling/seeing things the same way I am (or worse), and think that even a small problem must be really painful for them. I think it's kind of like how people say that people who've been depressed are often the ones who are most empathetic and don't want to see others hurting because they know how it feels... When you're manic, it's kinda almost the opposite because everything's good and you almost forget how ****** things can feel.
I feel the same way. I didn't dismiss their feelings when I was manic, but I felt like they were the ones standing in the way of their happiness.

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Old Jun 04, 2016, 06:45 PM
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So I'm newly semi-diagnosed with BP NOS (semi because my T thinks we can handle this withoud medication for a start and my insurance doesn't need to know bc they already are paying for trauma)

I'm currently in a high phase (so I am told) and I sometimes have problems to empathize with others. Now I am wondering if this is normal.
My thoughts are everywhere but by the people close to me. I feel like I have more important things to do and I am more annoyed if someone want's to be comforted than normally. And it's strange because on the one side I experience everything so intens, but at the same time it seems kind of self centered? I am sort of an activist, fighting for peoples right, but it's more of a "I think this is right" level then based on empathie.

When I'm low level depressed I'm the complete opposite. I feel Weltschmerz and have to avoid news because everything hurts like I would experience it myself.

Does anyone else have similar experiences?

[I apologise for all mistakes in this text. I had a few drinks tonight and english is not my first language]
Sometimes I also do things because I believe it's the right thing to do, and not because I feel anything necessarily. Other times I'm very emotional. It sucks,lol.

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