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Old Jun 09, 2016, 10:19 AM
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No one knows the long term health effects of vaping. That's my point. For all we know right now it could be worse.

And not all cigarettes have a bunch of extra nasty **** added. I'm not saying that makes it healthy or anything, just saying.
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Old Jun 09, 2016, 10:33 AM
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No one knows the long term health effects of vaping. That's my point. For all we know right now it could be worse.

And not all cigarettes have a bunch of extra nasty **** added. I'm not saying that makes it healthy or anything, just saying.
Yes, that's why I used both.

I now have to replace a component of the device. Apparently it's very, very bad if you don't and you'll taste it right away when you should replace it. But gustatory hallucinations or illusions really make that kind of thing impossible.

I don't like the not knowing how that thing works.
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Old Jun 09, 2016, 11:11 AM
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No one knows the long term health effects of vaping. That's my point. For all we know right now it could be worse.

And not all cigarettes have a bunch of extra nasty **** added. I'm not saying that makes it healthy or anything, just saying.
Show me a cigarette with less than 4000 chemicals and I'll eat my vaping box.
The cheaper brands are actually safer. Less process.
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Old Jun 09, 2016, 11:15 AM
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Show me a cigarette with less than 4000 chemicals and I'll eat my vaping box.
The cheaper brands are actually safer. Less process.
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/pres...ive-cigarettes

I expect some proof that you ate it.
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Old Jun 09, 2016, 11:30 AM
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Yes, that's why I used both.

I now have to replace a component of the device. Apparently it's very, very bad if you don't and you'll taste it right away when you should replace it. But gustatory hallucinations or illusions really make that kind of thing impossible.

I don't like the not knowing how that thing works.
And you. What's your game?. You're supposed to be depressed. Weren't you?.
Replacing coils is necessary even if they don't taste bad. Just when they clog a little. They can be cleaned also. Vodka will do the trick.
But they're so inexpensive from China that I throw 'em away. U can build 'em too.
U vapin from a pen?. Child's play. If U don't vape from a box you're missing the boat.
Go to fasttech.com. There's where the big boys & girls play.
Nothing over 50w or lower than .5ohms atty coil to start.
Look for Dekang, Hangsen or LiQua eLiquid. The house brand is Hungua or something of the sort. It should be good too.
How many mg of nic are on now?.
I finally can kick ur sorry arse at something. GOD IS GREAT!!!
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Old Jun 09, 2016, 12:04 PM
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And you. What's your game?. You're supposed to be depressed. Weren't you?.
Replacing coils is necessary even if they don't taste bad. Just when they clog a little. They can be cleaned also. Vodka will do the trick.
But they're so inexpensive from China that I throw 'em away. U can build 'em too.
U vapin from a pen?. Child's play. If U don't vape from a box you're missing the boat.
Go to fasttech.com. There's where the big boys & girls play.
Nothing over 50w or lower than .5ohms atty coil to start.
Look for Dekang, Hangsen or LiQua eLiquid. The house brand is Hungua or something of the sort. It should be good too.
How many mg of nic are on now?.
I finally can kick ur sorry arse at something. GOD IS GREAT!!!
I'm not depressed. Depression is the only time I don't fear mania (or some non-affective psychoses). I just lost hope. I thought about suicide but it's more pointless than living. For now. Maybe always.

I'm on 12 mg per ml (I think).

When should I replace or clean a coil? How labour-intensive is it to make these coils? At any rate, I'd rather clean them. I can buy rather pure alcohol at any shop which sells reed instruments. I don't like vodka.
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Old Jun 09, 2016, 12:10 PM
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Show me a cigarette with less than 4000 chemicals and I'll eat my vaping box.
The cheaper brands are actually safer. Less process.
I meant some don't have additives. There are some that are just tobacco, without a bunch of other **** added.
American spirit is just organic tobacco. And I'm not including
the paper. I know that has a bunch of chemicals added.
And please don't eat your vape box. That would be just nasty and with all that ejuice you'd probably die.
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Old Jun 09, 2016, 12:32 PM
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I'm not depressed. Depression is the only time I don't fear mania (or some non-affective psychoses). I just lost hope. I thought about suicide but it's more pointless than living. For now. Maybe always.

I'm on 12 mg per ml (I think).

When should I replace or clean a coil? How labour-intensive is it to make these coils? At any rate, I'd rather clean them. I can buy rather pure alcohol at any shop which sells reed instruments. I don't like vodka.
12mg is close to light. Nothing under 18mg does anything for me. It depends of what you're smoking now.

Tell me what equip you're using and I'll tell you what to do. Some coils can be cleaned with just distilled water.
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Old Jun 09, 2016, 12:51 PM
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I meant some don't have additives. There are some that are just tobacco, without a bunch of other **** added.
American spirit is just organic tobacco. And I'm not including
the paper. I know that has a bunch of chemicals added.
And please don't eat your vape box. That would be just nasty and with all that ejuice you'd probably die.
Hahaha!, thank you for letting me off the hook.
The box is so big that I'll have to cut my throat to fit it in.

Since we started this chat, you're trying to justify the unjustifiable.
If you're happy smoking, please, by all means, smoke. And enjoy your smoking. Don't be like those repented smokers that now are bothered by smoke.
I live and let live. Granted, I can't take smelling smoke anymore, but I don't preach. To each it's own. I just step aside.

I started vaping because when the boys with the white coats tell you you have less than 3 years to live, you listen.

I told one of 'em: "I'm a premium cigar smoker, I can't be sick."
"Come here, see this blank area here?". "That means 50% of your lungs are gone". "Not to come back." "It's up to you to stay alive for longer."
"How much longer". "If you stop smoking, maybe 5 yrs."
I couldn't stop smoking, so I vape. Is it safe? I think is way better than smoking according to my lung tests.

NOTHING IS BETTER THAN CLEAN AIR!!!!.
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Old Jun 09, 2016, 01:15 PM
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Ah, it reminds me: should psychiatrists wear white coats?

And please could anyone help me with the coil problem? I really don't trust myself having to taste when I need to clean or replace it.

Edit:
Ah, pirilin, only now I saw your question about the coil thingies.

It's an eGo ONE mini e-cigarette. Is that enough information?

12 mg is rather light, but I just vape more (and actually I never quit smoking while vaping).
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Old Jun 09, 2016, 01:43 PM
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eGo makes a bunch of things nowadays. And all the pens copies from China say eGo.
Try 18mg and maybe you won't need to smoke.
If you notice palpitations, then is too high for you.
Do you have a pen?. Do you remove the battery to charge? or use a mini USB in the bottom.
Either way I think you can buy 10 coils for 3US from China. Now, they have a minimun 20US for free shipping. They will ship a dollar, for a fee of course. I don't know how the VAT works.
I have a friend in France that is all fasttech. But that's a whole different animal.
Go to fasttech.com and check. Best I can do from here.
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Old Jun 09, 2016, 01:51 PM
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I got a vape to help with quitting smoking. Then I got sick, was in the ER twice with a rash caused by one of my psych meds. I fell off the quitting smoking thing because I was to miserable to not allow myself cigs. As soon as I'm 100%, I plan to go back to vaping.
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I do love smoking. It's my vice. Everyone has one. At least its not drinking or something.

I do plan on quitting though. Right now I'm cutting back. During my mania I was manic smoking and got up to a pack a day while before I only smoked five cigarettes a day.
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eGo makes a bunch of things nowadays. And all the pens copies from China say eGo.
Try 18mg and maybe you won't need to smoke.
If you notice palpitations, then is too high for you.
Do you have a pen?. Do you remove the battery to charge? or use a mini USB in the bottom.
Either way I think you can buy 10 coils for 3US from China. Now, they have a minimun 20US for free shipping. They will ship a dollar, for a fee of course. I don't know how the VAT works.
I have a friend in France that is all fasttech. But that's a whole different animal.
Go to fasttech.com and check. Best I can do from here.
Thanks for the info. But can I clean it with water or alcohol? I'm really don't want all that disposable stuff. I feel wasteful just breathing right now, so I don't wanna waste coils the rest of my life and feel bad about that too. Not if there is a good alternative.

I do have more coils, though. Ten or something. That's not the problem.

When do I know when to replace/clean them?
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Old Jun 09, 2016, 02:02 PM
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And I wasn't trying to justify smoking, p. You were just saying that EVERY cigarette is loaded with additives when they're not. I'm not saying organic tobacco is good for you. It's just better than cheap, ****** cigarettes that aren't even 100% tobacco.
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Tobacco is a PLANT. It's not some weird, synthetic thing.
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manic smoking was 2 1/2 packs a day for me. I did nothing but stress and smoke. my lungs hurt so bad. That is what prompted me to quit once the manic stuff went away and my lungs hurt and my voice changed.
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Tobacco is a PLANT. It's not some weird, synthetic thing.
Tell it to my lungs. They never smoked paper. Only premium cigars. 25 bucks a pop. Or more. Manufactured in front of me. With no masks, space suits or space gloves. Like they have to use manufacturing paper. If you could go to a factory, you will be really impressed with the equipment. I've seen it.
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I vape 50% PG/VG. I weaned myself off of nicotine after my last IP. (I went to a hospital that actually allowed smoking, of all things.) I find I still need to put something in my mouth when I stress, and gum or straws don't cut it. My husband still adds nicotine to his but I found that nicotine by itself stimulates me too much. I've tried to quit using patches and gum and it just winds me up.
Thanks for this!
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I vape 50% PG/VG. I weaned myself off of nicotine after my last IP. (I went to a hospital that actually allowed smoking, of all things.) I find I still need to put something in my mouth when I stress, and gum or straws don't cut it. My husband still adds nicotine to his but I found that nicotine by itself stimulates me too much. I've tried to quit using patches and gum and it just winds me up.
Great. I have friends that quitted nic vaping. The are in it for the flavors only.
I wish it was me. I hafta vape every 1/2 hr or so. And nothing under 18mg does anything for me. Glad you made it!.
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