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Old Jun 12, 2016, 07:04 AM
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What is one thing wrong with mental healthcare?

I think a lot of pdocs don't do a good job of educating patients about medication side effects or medication withdrawal symptoms. I'm usually diligent enough to look up all the side effects, but most people aren't, and sometimes even I forget to look these things up. I also don't usually look up withdrawal symptoms. Considering antipsychotics are notorious for awful side effects, I think this is a big problem.
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Old Jun 12, 2016, 07:40 AM
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I agree about how they should warn you what the medication withdrawal could be like. Years ago when I was put on benzos no one warned me that seven years later I could be crying in my closet because the withdrawal would be that horrible. I'm still pissed about that.
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Old Jun 12, 2016, 07:50 AM
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As far as what's wrong... I don't know. Everything. It hasn't really helped me. I'm back where I started. I'm having a depression that feels just like the very first one I had except with a few extras thrown in so it's worse. Meds don't help me (and have done more harm than good overall). My therapist is a moron. My last pdoc was an asshole and hurt more than helped.

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Old Jun 12, 2016, 08:00 AM
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The lack of pdocs in certain areas, causing a long wait time or being told they dont accept new patients.

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Old Jun 12, 2016, 08:14 AM
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Old Jun 12, 2016, 08:57 AM
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Right now, the lack of access to mental healthcare. So many pdocs have jumped off insurance plans, causing anyone who wants to go affordably to have a really hard time getting in anywhere.

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Old Jun 12, 2016, 09:05 AM
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Lack of good intake procedures and getting a thorough back ground info...instead oh you've been diagnosed BP....ok let's change this med, add this, drop that.....all with no ' clean' period of being off meds so you can see what meds have what side effects or if it's multiple meds mixing and causing the problem.
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Old Jun 12, 2016, 09:07 AM
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Right now, the lack of access to mental healthcare. So many pdocs have jumped off insurance plans, causing anyone who wants to go affordably to have a really hard time getting in anywhere.

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That reminds me...

IP is really expensive for me. My insurance charges me $750 per day in IP.

It seems that insurance and IP are a problem.
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Old Jun 12, 2016, 09:08 AM
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....and oh the revolving door policy of hospitals. Keep people long enough to stabilize them. Clean out old meds first then try new meds. Make long term stabilization the goal not just "enough" to get them out the door
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Old Jun 12, 2016, 09:19 AM
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What is one thing wrong with mental healthcare?
While I agree that pdocs don't tend to talk about side effects of medications in general, the side effects that concern me most are the withdrawal side effects when you stop the medication. Not enough is ever said about this to suit me.
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Old Jun 12, 2016, 11:41 AM
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The normalization of poly-pharmacology.


Very few pdocs start you off with a mood stabilizer and work their way from there... Usually you initially get 2 to 3 meds thrown at you (MS + AD + AP / Benzo) and hope for the best. Should you experience any problems or undesirable side effects, some pdocs just add more meds to address the problem instead of dropping the most obvious culprit, leading some of us to be on like 10 pills per dosage.


You know what I also find very wrong?


That besides lithium (which is a metal on the periodic table people, NOT a salt, they turn it into a salt) there are ZERO meds for BP on the market after how many years of "modern" medicine / science.


Instead we take meds for, depression, epilepsy and schizophrenia as a general BP cocktail.


Oooh ooh, and pdocs with God complexes who profess to know better than you what's happening to your body and brain.


Specifically here where I live?


Whats wrong is zero long term public health assistance...

You switch pdocs and psychologists like they're going out of fashion.


Long term is for people with money and medical aid.


Yes I'm quite pissed off now because I've been trying to forget that I'm losing an awesome T very soon.


Oops, that was more than 1 thing :0
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Old Jun 12, 2016, 11:42 AM
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The concept of mental illness, seeing societal problems as an illness of individuals, seeing us as a liability, inferior, of no value or benefit; the self-righteous, sanctimonious arrogance and (the) bitter irony (of that).

The pot calling the kettle black. Not just psychiatrists. They just do the dirty work for society as a whole.

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We are just as different from them as they are from us. It's just that we are the minority. But we are made a minority, to feel like a minority, to think we might lose when we'd include others, by helping just us, a minority. There is no discontinuity between us and them on many levels, but certainly not when it comes to essentials. Any discontinuity is a reaction to the way society treats us.
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Old Jun 12, 2016, 11:43 AM
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Working in the healthcare field for a few years now, I'd say the one thing that comes to mind is just the overall misconstrued idea that having a mental illness means forever having to be on meds.
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Old Jun 12, 2016, 11:50 AM
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There is so much wrong with mental health care that it is almost
impossible to pick just one.
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Old Jun 12, 2016, 12:14 PM
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There is so much wrong with mental health care that it is almost
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This is so very true.
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Old Jun 12, 2016, 12:22 PM
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There is so much wrong with mental health care that it is almost
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I probably shouldn't have said 'what is ONE thing wrong'... because you're right that there are many things wrong.

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Old Jun 12, 2016, 12:36 PM
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Medication.

Medication is what's wrong with the mental health field.

Maybe if they got better therapists so we could better learn how to deal with this **** we wouldn't need so many meds.
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Old Jun 12, 2016, 12:52 PM
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Most people don't know just how crazy they are. Mental health is about mental hygiene. Most people can't stand people who think somewhat differently, but they'll do anything to purge people from society that really perceive things and think differently and actually know they do and (because they) do so less at one time and more and differently at other times.

It's highly disconcerting, mortifying.

We basically, are a disease, a virus, that needs to be eradicated. Mental and societal hygiene. Like OCD, but delusional.

Just don't make people confused, question their beliefs, their most basic assumptions.
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Old Jun 12, 2016, 12:57 PM
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Medication.

Medication is what's wrong with the mental health field.

Maybe if they got better therapists so we could better learn how to deal with this **** we wouldn't need so many meds.
Medication isn't the problem. That we're forced to take it just to function, is.

I wouldn't know about therapy. I hope it'll work.
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Old Jun 12, 2016, 01:28 PM
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Medication isn't the problem. That we're forced to take it just to function, is.

I wouldn't know about therapy. I hope it'll work.
I see what you mean.

How about if meds just disappeared off the face of the planet. Then there'd be nothing to take.

Of course, we'd all probably end up screaming in some mental hospital somewhere then.

I'm functioning fantastically on my meds that aren't working.

I hope your therapist isn't a moron.
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Old Jun 12, 2016, 02:34 PM
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I see what you mean.

How about if meds just disappeared off the face of the planet. Then there'd be nothing to take.

Of course, we'd all probably end up screaming in some mental hospital somewhere then.

I'm functioning fantastically on my meds that aren't working.

I hope your therapist isn't a moron.
How about if everyone not like us disappeared from the face of the earth?

Eugenics. Eye for an eye.

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Old Jun 12, 2016, 03:12 PM
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But I like the drugs. It's not very different from people taking drugs to be more like us.
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