[st0psign]

That BP treatments offer meds that can be addictive and habit forming (Ie amphetamines and benzodiazepine) when bout 60% of us suffer from drug and alcohol abuse. so that makes sense right?

second many of the other noncontrolled substances you can OD if you take the whole bottle at once. and we're suicidal already, giving us this is handing us a loaded gun.

I'm coming close to deciding to get off the majority of my meds. mood stabilizers and antipsychotics. I'd like to keep the vyvanse and Ativan for focus and sleep. and supplement that with cannabis once I get my card .

[Daonnachd]

The irony has struck me as well.

[pirilin]

We demand blow, horse and weed. Down with big pharma.
And, while at it, legal w h o r e houses.

[st0psign]

pirilin ftw

[Wild Coyote]

Originally Posted by st0psign

That BP treatments offer meds that can be addictive and habit forming (Ie amphetamines and benzodiazepine) when bout 60% of us suffer from drug and alcohol abuse. so that makes sense right?

second many of the other noncontrolled substances you can OD if you take the whole bottle at once. and we're suicidal already, giving us this is handing us a loaded gun.

I'm coming close to deciding to get off the majority of my meds. mood stabilizers and antipsychotics. I'd like to keep the vyvanse and Ativan for focus and sleep. and supplement that with cannabis once I get my card .

It's ironic, for sure.

I have thought about this a lot over the years. All of my siblings drink heavily and/or smoke a lot of weed. None commit to treatment by a pdoc. I do the opposite. Their approach, although it creates more hardships for them, is more "socially acceptable" to their social group. Neither "way" is more correct than the other. Either way, we are "medicating," it seems.

I feel research for better treatments are far behind where they should be for 2016, even though I have seen much improvement in the number of options over the past 30 years.

Some states offering MMJ won't allow use for any mental health diagnoses.

Maybe it's a much healthier way for some people?

I honestly hope this strategy works for you.

WC

[bizi]

I tried to decrease my geodon and was going manic.....I need my meds.
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bizi

[Yoda]

Psych meds have risks and side effects like all meds. I think you have to weigh the risks and benefits of the meds. I am not in the 60 percent you say have addiction problems so for me the benefit of xanax outweighs the risk. I have been taking it as prescribed since 1999 and no problems there. But other nonaddictive meds have been troublesome for me such as seroquel and lithium.

Individuals vary in their response to meds. So when they say X percent of people in a drug study had improvement in symptoms with med Y you have to try and see if you are one of those the med helps. If not, move onto another med.

[Wild Coyote]

Originally Posted by bizi

I tried to decrease my geodon and was going manic.....I need my meds.
bp1
bizi

I enjoy drinking. Yet, I need my meds, too.

The knowledge around MMJ is increasing. It's not viable treatment for me at this point. I don't know about the future.

For now, I am better off with meds.

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I've ODed on my meds six times over the 25 years i've been diagnosed and nothing ever happened. The times i sought medical attention they didn't even have to give me charcoal to vomit. I've always been on what i thought was a fairly stiff cocktail, usually a mood stabilizer, anti-psychotics and anti-anxiety meds. I don't know what people who complete suicide by ODing on their meds are on. The suicide manual "Final Exit" says psych meds are useless for suicide -- not that it kept me from trying. I think doctors know that psych meds are pretty harmless.

[~Christina]

Its hard to find balance.

But the reality is it's almost impossible to find Bipolar stability if alcohol and street drugs are in the picture.

[pirilin]

Who wants stability?. We want to play rough, long and hard. Sleep all day, party all night.
We want to own the world. In fact, we own the world.
Only big pharma wants us stupidified. They don't call 'em recreational drugs for nothing 'ya know.

[ComfortablyNumb5]

Originally Posted by st0psign

That BP treatments offer meds that can be addictive and habit forming (Ie amphetamines and benzodiazepine) when bout 60% of us suffer from drug and alcohol abuse. so that makes sense right?


second many of the other noncontrolled substances you can OD if you take the whole bottle at once. and we're suicidal already, giving us this is handing us a loaded gun.


I'm coming close to deciding to get off the majority of my meds. mood stabilizers and antipsychotics. I'd like to keep the vyvanse and Ativan for focus and sleep. and supplement that with cannabis once I get my card .

Yes, ironic indeed. As a matter of fact I've ODed on my benzos many times and it took a long while for a pdoc to trust me and give them back. I was also put on vyvanse when my drug of choice is uppers! Imagine the mess that was! It ruined my stability big time and I'm still not all there.

I don't know how it is where you are but here in MI, many docs are hesitant to give you a weed card if you're already using prescribed substances. The idea is to use it the pot responsibily and as your only med. for example, I'm on klonopin. But if I go and get my card for anxiety, they'd refuse me because I'm already taking a benzo med for it. They don't want to be responsible if you get toasted on your controlled meds and perhaps hurt yourself when mixing with pot (even though pot is very safe as far as my beliefs). But I guess every dr is different and may let it slide. Good luck and let us know how it goes! And yea, I don't have my card but I smoke often. Haven't blown up yet lol

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[Refuse2Sink]

Perfect example of Big Pharma being the biggest drug dealers in this country.

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