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Old Apr 06, 2018, 06:49 AM
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One of the lecturers said at my community college that only working class people get tattoos. I tough that half the college were from working class families. In my othe r HNC we all got along despite back round.
I am in the UK is this true?

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Old Apr 06, 2018, 07:11 AM
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Does he have facts/evidence to back up his claim?

Sounds like a generalization/stereotype. When you say "ONLY x people do this", it's rare that it's true imo.
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Old Apr 06, 2018, 07:18 AM
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My Gran died six weeks before the end. I took two weeks off. I all ready have a hnc anyway. And to be perfectly honest I did not want to go to university, as I am old enough to know that a degree does not guarantee happiness and success. And after a heated discussion with a friend who had to drop out of Abertay, we agreed that the open university would be much a much better option in every sense or I should change direction because I did not enjoy parts of my course .
My friend thinks that I was trying to avoid the unit on attachment and that's why I unconsciously used other things as an excuse.
I would prefer to stay in my hometown but I was not drawn to the sociology and criminology degree. I found sociology too abstract and misjointend. I re-applied to finish the hnc off the following year after I recieved a very encouraging letter from the lecturing team. Thank you very much. I am not giving up on my education, I like to learn and I will never stop learning . I just might do the Theology degree.
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Old Apr 06, 2018, 08:04 AM
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Regarding tattoos, I know many people from all kinds of socioeconomic backgrounds that have them (those living pay cheque to paycheque to VP's of major business corps.) They're a lot more mainstream today where I live. Maybe the perception is different state to state, province to province, country to country.
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"I found sociology too abstract....I just might do the Theology degree."

You dont find theology abstract?
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Old Apr 06, 2018, 09:16 AM
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I am shocked at the stereotypes many people have about tattoos and people who get tattoos. I have many tattoos and consider myself middle-class. I have a doctor who has a tattoo. All sorts of people get tattoos; it has nothing to do with one's "class".
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Old Apr 06, 2018, 09:44 AM
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I think I’m middle class, or at least come from an upper middle class background, and I’m getting a tattoo. I left a deposit and have it booked.
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Old Apr 06, 2018, 09:56 AM
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"I found sociology too abstract....I just might do the Theology degree."

You dont find theology abstract?
Yes I see your point. I think I just expected it to be more concrete. But I guess most academic subjects begin with the theory and then it's up to the student to apply it to real life or do research. We do get tables and graphs and case studies and so on. I know research is conducted. I just hoped it linked up easier.
The artist in me likes to see the whole picture. How all the parts link up as a whole. Yes I know maybe if I had persevered it would have made more sense. But this lady doesn't have patience as a great virtue!
The curriculum for excellence introduced real life research after i left school which is one thing our government actually maybe made a good call on.
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Old Apr 06, 2018, 10:30 AM
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I know doctors, both PhD and MD, students who also have tattoos.
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Old Apr 06, 2018, 12:45 PM
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I know doctors, both PhD and MD, students who also have tattoos.
When I was in hosital there were nurses with tattoos all down both arms. I trusted them the same.
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Old Apr 06, 2018, 02:03 PM
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it is a age ( generation ) thing ... when I was young the only people that had tattoos were merchant marine and sailors ... it was looked on as dirty and very low class to be avoided ... no one would hire anyone with a tattoo ... that is just the way it was ... I am 60 and there is a deep down part of me that still sees it as dirty ... to be avoided ... I would never get a tattoo myself ... my pdoc has ( karate ) tattoos on both arms ... not sure what level black belt he is ... but on a woman ... it is a total turn off for me ... this was just the way I was brought up ...
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Old Apr 06, 2018, 03:05 PM
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it is a age ( generation ) thing ... when I was young the only people that had tattoos were merchant marine and sailors ... it was looked on as dirty and very low class to be avoided ... no one would hire anyone with a tattoo ... that is just the way it was ... I am 60 and there is a deep down part of me that still sees it as dirty ... to be avoided ... I would never get a tattoo myself ... my pdoc has ( karate ) tattoos on both arms ... not sure what level black belt he is ... but on a woman ... it is a total turn off for me ... this was just the way I was brought up ...
I'm 50 and I grew up in a similar way. But I've overcome this once I arrived in the US at the age of 20. While I would not get one myself tattoos don't bother me at all and I often find the cool looking.
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Old Apr 06, 2018, 03:15 PM
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I'm 55, got my first tattoo at age 42 and never stopped after that. I have beautiful artwork on my body. "Age thing" my as$. It's an attitude thing and a complete misunderstanding about self-expression. And I don't know how it was "way back when", but these days tattoos are expensive. Working poor can't even afford them.
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Old Apr 06, 2018, 04:59 PM
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I got my first two tattoos when I was 58 and plan on getting another for my 60th birthday. I know it used to be considered a low-class thing and frowned upon by most people, but times have changed. I never would've gotten one when I was younger. I feel like a little bit of a rebel because none of my family of origin have any. Three of my kids do though, and it tickled the hell out of them when I got mine.
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Old Apr 06, 2018, 05:08 PM
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I have 10 tattoos so far and I love them. Each one is a meaningful part of my story. I also own my own business. I've got rainbow hair, piercings and tattoos. I don't care what other people think. I do this stuff because it makes me feel good.
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I'm 55, got my first tattoo at age 42 and never stopped after that. I have beautiful artwork on my body. "Age thing" my as$. It's an attitude thing and a complete misunderstanding about self-expression. And I don't know how it was "way back when", but these days tattoos are expensive. Working poor can't even afford them.
I completely agree! One of my tattoos was $1700 alone! You pay big bucks for nice tattoos
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Old Apr 06, 2018, 05:32 PM
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I agree that many tattoos are like pieces of art, but I sometimes wonder what young folks' tatts will look like when they're faded & sagging decades from now. I'm not judging...that thought just runs through my mind sometimes.
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I agree that many tattoos are like pieces of art, but I sometimes wonder what young folks' tatts will look like when they're faded & sagging decades from now. I'm not judging...that thought just runs through my mind sometimes.
They will look like you lived an interesting life and have some good stories. I hope my grand kids are asking me about them one day. It all comes down to perspective really.
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Old Apr 06, 2018, 06:03 PM
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Yep, times have changed and those who don't accept the changes will be left behind. People show off their expensive cars, houses, clothes, art hanging on a wall...but take a look at an artistically-rendered tattoo...that's a valuable piece of art.
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I agree that many tattoos are like pieces of art, but I sometimes wonder what young folks' tatts will look like when they're faded & sagging decades from now. I'm not judging...that thought just runs through my mind sometimes.
You can get them touched up if they fade or whatever. The touch ups can make the tattoo look brand new and you wouldn't even suspect that there was an old, faded tattoo underneath. Or you can get a cover-up if touching up won't help. Search cover-up tattoos and you'll find some interesting ones that make you go, "wow, I would have never guessed." So it's your choice if you want to keep the tattoo as is or replace it with another, or I guess laser it off. But my point is that there are options for handling it.

I don't have a tattoo, but some of my family members do
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I'm 55, got my first tattoo at age 42 and never stopped after that. I have beautiful artwork on my body. "Age thing" my as$. It's an attitude thing and a complete misunderstanding about self-expression. And I don't know how it was "way back when", but these days tattoos are expensive. Working poor can't even afford them.
A lot of poorer people will get home jobs done. My students from the alternative school often got their friends to do tattoos on them. Anyone can buy a tattoo gun and ink these days. Stupid for sure and they look like **** but there you go.

I got my first at 19 and I now have six. I’m currently waiting on my trusted artist to call me to do my other forearm tattoo. I work as a teacher but because of the scars I would never show my arms at work anyway (and I’m always cold) so I didn’t care about getting a forearm tattoo (or two lol). I have two more planned after the forearm. Then I will have four done specifically to deter me from self harm. Whatever works right?
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Old Apr 06, 2018, 08:32 PM
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Yep, times have changed and those who don't accept the changes will be left behind.
I'd like to think that if we're going to be truly open-minded that we'd accept that everyone has a right to their own opinion.

It's no different than saying one doesn't like a certain style of clothing. So what, right? Yet when I've seen tattoo threads there has invariably been a sort of well... atmosphere where it doesn't feel safe to express the opinion that one simply doesn't care for them.

I've hesitated posting on this topic before for that very reason. But today I shall be brave.

Personally, I'm not into them. I've seen nice ones, but most I've seen really aren't and simply look like bruising from any distance. I'm no conformist --color hair I love (mine is purple), but I simply don't care for tattoos. So what? If that makes me unacceptable, so be it.

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I'd like to think that if we're going to be truly open-minded that we'd accept that everyone has a right to their own opinion.

It's no different than saying one doesn't like a certain style of clothing. So what, right? Yet when I've seen tattoo threads there has invariably been a sort of well... atmosphere where it doesn't feel safe to express the opinion that one simply doesn't care for them.

I've hesitated posting on this topic before for that very reason. But today I shall be brave.

Personally, I'm not into them. I've seen nice ones, but most I've seen really aren't and simply look like bruising from any distance. I'm no conformist --color hair I love (mine is purple), but I simply don't care for tattoos. So what? If that makes me unacceptable, so be it.
It's fine to not like tattoos. It's how you phrase it. I'm totally cool with people that don't have tattoos, but I don't imply that they are ugly for not having them, etc. There are many things I find unattractive and I don't call people out for it. With tattoos though people think it's fair game. The ideal situation here is acceptance. Just because it's not for you doesn't mean that is the be all end all.

Also I'm not talking about you specifically. It's just a general response.
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Old Apr 06, 2018, 09:22 PM
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A lot of poorer people will get home jobs done. My students from the alternative school often got their friends to do tattoos on them. Anyone can buy a tattoo gun and ink these days. Stupid for sure and they look like **** but there you go...
Yes, I am aware of that. And sometimes people trade items, work, art, drugs, or whatever for tattoos.

Generally speaking, however, most tattoos - especially the ones that are well-done - are expensive.
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One of the lecturers said at my community college that only working class people get tattoos. I tough that half the college were from working class families. In my othe r HNC we all got along despite back round.

I am in the UK is this true?
It isn’t my experience in the US nor in the UK.

What kind of proof does the lecturer offer?

My mind goes to thinking of all the tattooed lecturers that I’ve known!
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