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So, was lying in bed praying last night, praying to have a less negative view of the galaxy. I freely admit to really struggling with thoughts that center around feeling and believing that a fairly significant part of my country's population of adults are just not good people. No real need for details, but I think it comes from a number of places--having been cheated on repeatedly, embezzled from, abandoned when I got really sick, discriminated against, and horrifically abused and tortured by a police department for two years. Sure it's more than that, but that's a start.
Anyway, as I was lying there last night and reflecting on how forcing myself to go for a ten-minute walk, despite my paranoia, had really lifted me--mostly because of the beautiful song of a little bird--it occurred to me that this was possibly all my doing. Why, I wondered, did I spend time thinking about these painful things and my, admittedly, rather firm belief that a sizable percentage of my country's people are just ethically and morally bereft, if not, outright evil, when I could be thinking about how wonderful it was to scuba dive in Fiji? Or how happy our absolutely awesome rose garden makes me? Or the squeals of happy toddlers at the playground? Or the fact that I had such wonderful times with my kids when they were little? Or how fortunate I am to be able to write? etc. In short, why do I not focus more on these positives? Why am I so disturbed and angry about what I believe is misconduct when I see it? I'm not perfect, I have done some rotten things. Anyway, was just wondering how other people balance out or make sense of these things. It would be so nice to be able to spend more time reflecting on the birds and the happy toddlers. I just need to figure out how to do that and to focus less on the evil I see all around us.
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“A less negative view of the galaxy”
this, imo, is a great aspiration ![]() I think I understand what you mean about the feeling that a significant proportion of the adult population are not good people ![]() ![]() One thing I find helps me personally sometimes is finding the “grey” in people. Even if someone appears to be ...? They probably have some or more “redeeming qualities”.. I hope some of this is helpful or relevant, if not that is ok too ![]() Love and respect to all sentient beings ![]() ![]()
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It’s hard to not think about the bad that was done to you. It’s only natural that you will sometimes. When you are doing pleasant things, like taking a walk, better thoughts will come to you. So do more pleasant things.
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bpcyclist, you're far from being alone in your current feelings about the people of the world. I do want to say, however, that there are many people out there that are not only fighting the negative aspects of the world situation, but even the status quo that has kept progress from happening. Or at least keeps it from happening in a fast enough manner. I won't go much into politics, but looking at what's happening on what may be seen as "the positive side", is quite encouraging. People are learning...slowly, but surely. Those who never really knew and continue not to know, are just slower in the learning process. It's a shame that it can take hardship for people to learn lessons, but that is often the reality. I've had to learn a lot of hard lessons, but in a way I'm almost grateful for them, so that I did eventually learn.
Now I'm going to focus on something wonderful you wrote about. Birds! Hubby and I have been spending every halfway nice day outside. [We've had a lot of rain!] I have observed that this horrible pandemic has made nature seem happier. Yes, all those polluting people who take up too much room in the habitat are finally giving the wildlife and plant life a little break. The trees and plants seem happier. It's true that the birds do, too. Without jet aircraft and so much traffic, we've heard birdsong that we otherwise rarely would. Maybe this pandemic will set the precedent for more people to work from home, spending more time with their families, keeping traffic lighter, burning less polluting fuels, and therefore helping preserve or improve the environment. Why don't we learn to create something positive from this? I definitely have my rageful times in the day, but I also try to pursue pleasure, as well. Humor is quite important to me. I like to be silly, play word games, playfully tease, sing, dance. I try to push myself to see the positives by deliberately looking for them. They are out there. Many many! |
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This is an interesting point of reflection. I don't have any answers. I can only provide what I've tried during similar moments of contemplation.
First, I believe wholeheartedly in trying to focus on the side of things I wish to experience more. I believe we entrain with the types of thoughts we dwell upon and in turn we tend to experience more of the same as a result. However, and this is a big however.... I no longer think reprogramming my perspective is enough. Pushing my truth away has led me to repress things. Those repressed things always have a way of returning and the more I push them down, the harder they hit me when I return. They have somewhat of an elastic quality about them. Lately I've been working with this more and more. When an aspect of myself surfaces and I do not like it, that is a red flag that I need to dig deeper. Every pattern of thought or experience has a root. Root systems are multifacted and complex and sometimes need to be viewed in stages. So first, I might ask myself why do I feel the way I do? What has occurred to create it? I go back in time as far as I can looking for experiences with the same theme. Next, I ask myself what role did I play? Sometimes I've played multiple roles. So for example, if I have a fear of a certain type of person I might see that there are times when I was hurt by them or when I hurt that type of person or when I was that type of person. I try not to get too literal and look for a match in the essence of intent. Next, I ask myself how have I expanded as a result of these experiences. What did I learn from all of the roles I played? Then I forgive myself for playing the parts I played and I forgive others for their roles. I hold compassion for the experiences they have had that led them to hurt me. I forgive myself for what led me to my own foolishness. Next, I set an intent. I set a desire to loop through the experience again, but greet it with acceptance over negativity and fear. When it comes around I try my best to remember that and welcome the pieces of myself I do not like so much back into my heart. I also welcome into my heart whoever is playing the other roles in the experience. I ask for forgiveness for judging them and thank them for teaching me. I do this quietly and internally. Then I try to navigate together to the place I want to end up. Its the difference between negativity surfacing and dissociating from it and integrating it and moving forward together. It is hard to move when you leave bits and pieces of yourself anchoring you to experiences you don't want to deal with. We create them for a reason... I do not believe that the universe is so random or cruel that we are perpetually offered meaningless experiences in pain. I respect those who do believe that, but it is not my path. So I shift my behavior and whatever happens happens. If it comes up again I repeat the steps and keep doing my new thing until eventually the entire experience just kinda morphs to a better place. Outside of all that I set an intent as often as possible to experience whatever is within my highest possible good each day. I practice gratitude daily and I ask for guidance from above as well as from those here who have infinite wisdom to offer. When I don't like where I am I ask for the wisdom to know what force to apply to shift it. When I feel guilty, I confess and forgive. When I am angry, I seek out a laugh. When I am too excited, I seek out the calm. I'm not always balanced and that isn't the goal. The spectrum of experience has a ton to offer. I just want to be able to drive and go where I please when a change is needed. That feeling of choice in the moment is what helps me to feel neutral. ![]() |
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That is a very good idea, TishaBuv--thanks!!
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Thank you so much for sharing how you do this, fern--I really appreciate it!
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Selective focus. Just like using a camera. Which looks better?
![]() ![]() These are the same tree. Looking at number two looks more natural without the house in the background. If I point my camera at the good parts I get better images. You just need to do the same with your mind. Avoid going where you see too much bad.
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So... Let's say your brain goes from point A to Z instantly when a particular trigger comes along. The neural connections between source and target are well connected and travelled often like a superhighway. Anytime you hit point C you jump to Z. If you hit point Q you jump to Z. Its the fastest route. You brain knows if you hit a letter, jump to Z. The process of going back to the root cause is like going back to point A and stopping the jump to Z. You then set up a new pathway and new destinations. Now you go from A then on to 1, 2, 3 and end up at 7 which is your new preference. Next time you go to A and then to alpha, delta, zeta and then eventually 7. You teach your brain 7 is happening whether it prefers that path or not. All similar triggers go to 7. Next time you go to A or to Q or whatever similar trigger point you then go to I, then II, then III and then back to 7. Eventually your brain starts to just take you straight to 7 because it is faster after doing the work to build the highway. I realize that sounds kinda nutty, but hopefully you vibe with something difficult to explain ![]() |
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I feel like I should clarify....so for example I go grocery shopping early in the morning I avoid the crowds and don’t see people with kids...so I avoid the kids yelling or the parents yelling at the kids.
I don’t watch the local news, instead I read the news so I can be selective to the good. My Instagram is filled with flowers, birds and trees. If you avoid the most negative things it’s a lot easier to be positive about people. If you see all of the darkness it’s very hard to remain positive. I think I’m also helped by having kind of a meh memory, I have a tendency to forget stuff after six months or so I have my photos to remember by and that’s already selective. Another alternative is the meditation of a tree dropping leaves in the river. As each leaf drops you see it flowing gently downstream. Attach each thought you have to a leaf and watch it flow gently downstream. The goal is to passively watch your thoughts float away. You don’t judge whether they are negative or positive just watch them pass by, it’s very zen and you can apply it to any thought you’re having. It doesn’t magically spiral you into the positive but it takes the negative into neutral territory.
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Thanks fern....I just thought it wasn’t very instructive...sometimes things are best spelled out for clarity, sometimes they aren’t, it can be hard to tell on the Internet because you can’t see an immediate response.
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My mother was a huge bird person. My senior year of high school, we took a week school trip to the Malheur National Bird Refuge in southeast Oregon, toward Nevada. It was absolutely unbelievable. I'll never forget it it as long as I live. My favorites were the wrens and other reed-dwellers. The way they would try to hide with their beaks straight up in the air, saying: "I'm a reed! I'm reed! I'm not a bird!"
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Exactly. Exactly.
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I agree. Avoid going where there is too much bad....
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So, great. But what about the moral imperative not to stand by idly while clearly evil actions occur? For example, had the United States not entered the war against both Germany and Japan, respectively and for very different reasons, well, far, far, far more evil and suffering would have befallen planet earth and its inhabitants. Had I been around then and elected not to involve myself because it caused me stress and discomfort and pain and unhappiness, well, I do not believe that would have been the right choice in the grand scheme of the universe. So, what I am saying is that, just for myself, totally focusing on my own mental health well-being may not actually always be the morally correct decision. Which I find quite difficult. Sometimes, pain is required in order to do the right thing. Child birth and child rearing are painful, often, but we don't abandon our kids when they are misbehaving, because that would be wrong. Doing 7 years of brutal residency was extremely painful, but it had to be done in order to save lives that otherwise would likely have been lost. Etc.
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Someone choosing not to engage in something that is painful doesn't make them bad or inferior. It just means they choose not to expand along that particular pathway. So in your war example, me judging the actions of others as not right for me is one thing. Me standing in their way and applying force against them is another. If I apply the force, I must do it with the knowing it will generate a counter force. If I let them proceed without restraint on my part I can know they will eventually be met with a counter force even if I do not sign up to supply it. Maybe I'm ok with that. Maybe not. If someone were to attack my family I'd probably jump right in despite the consequences. It would be pain that I sign up for willingly. I think the goal is to have clarity about where you want to go, how you want to get there and what to do if you decide it isn't for you and you wish to go someplace else. Be a hero if you want to be a hero. That can be an awesome and worthwhile adventure. Just be prepared to dance with the villain. I got in deep with that once on a moral high road. It knocked me flat on my face and left me rethinking my feeling I had a right to judge the actions of what I thought was my opponent... I'd probably be willing to mix it up with them again, but I'd take a wildly different approach. |
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I snapped a pic of my roses while I was out on a walk today. Thought you might like them
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I guess for me I pay some attention...like when we get an R president I donate more to nature preservation etc., but I don’t march for it or anything. I still check the voting guide before voting but I get a condensed version not weeks of it. It’s just not overloading yourself... not just ignoring everything. Let’s say you see 1000 pieces of badness watching the local news. Switch to reading the news and you just stop at 200, there’s no waiting for the weather. I don’t want to spend all my time being outraged you know but I’m still aware. I do the best I can to help while not immersing myself in the muck. I realize things ebb and flow, some of this comes from living in the Midwest. They say if you don’t like the weather just wait a minute, we can have shorts weather and snow in the same day. Having a president I don’t like I can’t change for example but I can counter by doing the best I can for people and the planet. Ill vote again next time. I try to assess whether me being worried about it will change the situation or not. Take Covid, I’ve got a mask, I stay in, it’s not 100% but it’s the best I can do. You don’t have to be 100% to be effective. 95% is still great.if something is major you’ll see it even with limited attention. You’re not going to miss Hitler by watching only 20 minutes of news a day. It’s not a zero/100 kind of thing. If you’ll notice there’s still an electrical box in photo two, nobody’s going to think it’s a pristine mountain top. The point is making it better not omitting everything you don’t like.
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I love the comments here. Yes, we often forget the joyous things- the beautiful weather, the wonderful innocence of animals and children, people who have not lost their kindness and sense of humor in these very strange times.
But here's another side of it. We're all stuck at home because a lot of people messed up. Some of us have more time for a new project until things normalize. This would be a great time for us as Americans to rise up and HELP MAKE THINGS BETTER. Im angry too. This would be a time for a grassroots movement to take hold. I voted for Trump and he is good at some things, However, watching his ludicrous behavior on the press briefings has made me loathe him. Watching a few of those doesnt really tell the tale completely. I was watching every day for awhile and he just doesnt have what it takes. This is a world crisis. The last time we had a challenge this big, I believe was WWII. Does Trump measure up to giants like Winston Churchill and Franklin Delano Roosevelt? Do you you young ones even know the magnitude of what those two leaders did to save the free world? It's ok to be angry and we can use it as the impetus to ALWAYS VOTE. Some of us have time to volunteer to help in political campaigns, help run neighborhood organizations, charitable groups. Reading Bill Gates blog gives a balanced science based view and using him as a role model can lift the rest of us up. MANY OF US CAN HAVE A ROLE IN SAVING PEOPLE, SAVING OUR GOVERNMENTS, AND SAVING THE WORLD. Do something small, do something ambitious. Projects help fight depression for sure. Hugs to everyone!
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Now My Cute Images will Not Post.
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