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Monster on the Hill
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At what point does "I've never looked at this in that way" turn into "loss of touch with reality?"
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Do you have family or friends to call and talk to about this.
or perhaps a trip to a therapist might help. sorry bizi __________________ lamictal 2x a day haldol 2x a day cogentin 2x a day klonipin , 1mg at night, fish oil coq10 multi vit,, vit c, at noon, tumeric, caffeine Remeron at night, zyprexa, requip2-4mg |
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Maybe what matters is, whether or not the view on reality sticks to ethics and morality, because if that isn't there then that's what, I think, generates the most criticism. I'm just speculating. __________________ "A flower falls, even though we love it; and a weed grows, even though we do not love it."- Dōgen
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That reminds me of Ram Dass's take on a somewhat related question, from when he was visiting his brother who was inpatient. Let's see if I can make it a little bit short but not completely unrecognizable: Quote:
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I've been thinking about this a bit, and I think one (small?) part is how you've come to the perspective of whatever the thought is.
Take my past episode. My main delusion was protons are having a higher charge and we can use that in a certain way to either produce all the energy we will ever need or blow up the world. This was purely because of perceptual disturbances and thinking "that stop sign looks brighter and it doesn't look quite as attached to the pole as it used to," so there was a subjective viewpoint that no one else could see (and trust me, I've asked). If your conclusion is based on a false premise, chances are the conclusion is false too. There are also other symptoms of psychosis. I think if they all tie in together in a way that's coherent and syntonic within itself, it's a possibility, but if some of it is obviously far out there enough to have no relation to "reality" then the argument of possibly "creatively perceiving" (or doing so without being "psychotic") is naught. __________________ [Insert thought-provoking and comedic quote here] |
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My opinion:
If your thinking, your perception, your sensory experience and the resulting actions cannot be connected in any way with the experience and observation of others, then something is wrong. Of course, very few of us will always be able to understand or experience the thoughts and feelings of others 100%, but at least we meet at the point where our perceptions, experiences and worlds of thought intersect. And even if everyone at a group meeting can have a different experience and processing of the same evening, it is at least certain that this group meeting took place THERE with this and that person, where there was a common toast. 5 people will look outside the same window, reckognizing different things, but they still see the same area. |
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Yeah. I guess the problem there though is finding a large enough number of people (at least two others, but as it always is, the more the more likely of finding "truth").
I'm thinking maybe "creatively perceiving" is less actual, physical perspective than a reflection of his/her creativity on the environment, while psychosis is more of a physical perspective shift without the ability of take away the reflection. __________________ [Insert thought-provoking and comedic quote here] |
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