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Old Apr 10, 2009, 09:22 AM
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I educated myself in college and graduate school. I had a great job. Everyone told me I was a great Dad. Now I have no job, can't afford medicine, never leave my house, and can't get a job,and am told what a terrible father I am.
I believe in science; life is a science experiment. When doing research,you try your best to get them to work, thenyou move on when it seems to no longer work. Life, like everything to me is a science experiment. If it doesn't work, you move on. Sep 12th, Sep 12.

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Old Apr 10, 2009, 11:24 AM
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I believe in science; life is a science experiment.
I agree with that!

But don't be too quick to move on. Variables change. The environment changes. What happens when you run your experiments a year from now?

I don't have a job either, and my parenting skills get criticized too. I try to be optimistic that my experiments with this changing environment will produce more favorable results a year or two down the road.

You should be proud of your accomplishments, but I don't believe you are a failure or a non-worthwhile person just because you are having trouble accomplishing things now.

Maybe you already know this, but (if you are in the US) there are some very effective generic psych drugs available at major chains like Wal-Mart and Target for $4 a month--such as lithium, Prozac, and Pamelor. Drugs don't solve everything, but they sure can get you moving again.

Good luck.
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Old Apr 10, 2009, 11:51 AM
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This experiment has about ran it's course. I have put a strict time limit on it, and if things don't turn around it will end. Thanks though.
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Old Apr 10, 2009, 03:02 PM
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I have just been diagnosed with Bipolar II I am always in a depressive state. It is very hard for me to accept this illness I keep saying to myself I dont have it but I guess doctors are right. I feel like a science experiment trying different meds.
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Old Apr 10, 2009, 04:57 PM
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I educated myself in college and graduate school. I had a great job. Everyone told me I was a great Dad. Now I have no job, can't afford medicine, never leave my house, and can't get a job,and am told what a terrible father I am.
I believe in science; life is a science experiment. When doing research,you try your best to get them to work, thenyou move on when it seems to no longer work. Life, like everything to me is a science experiment. If it doesn't work, you move on. Sep 12th, Sep 12.

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Why Sept. 12th? What happens that day?
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Old Apr 10, 2009, 05:08 PM
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I had a lot going for me, once, also- I was a wealthy young girl, once, one of the richest families in the area, then I lost it all when my family abandoned me when I was diagnosed..they valued their reputation more than their own daughter....

The pressure is amazing in our rich town , it is hard to bear.....

But let's not either one of us fall prey to something as superficial as that..

I am sure you are STILL a good Dad, if your intentions are the same, as they always were..

Can you work with VESID to get a job once more?

I can give you a link to a good support group to venture out of the house to...

I care about you
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Old Apr 13, 2009, 01:54 AM
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I educated myself in college and graduate school. I had a great job. Everyone told me I was a great Dad. Now I have no job, can't afford medicine, never leave my house, and can't get a job,and am told what a terrible father I am.
I believe in science; life is a science experiment. When doing research,you try your best to get them to work, thenyou move on when it seems to no longer work. Life, like everything to me is a science experiment. If it doesn't work, you move on. Sep 12th, Sep 12.

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I had a lot going for me, once, also- I was a wealthy young girl, once, one of the richest families in the area, then I lost it all when my family abandoned me when I was diagnosed..they valued their reputation more than their own daughter....

The pressure is amazing in our rich town , it is hard to bear.....

But let's not either one of us fall prey to something as superficial as that..

I am sure you are STILL a good Dad, if your intentions are the same, as they always were..

Can you work with VESID to get a job once more?

I can give you a link to a good support group to venture out of the house to...

I care about you

I just want you to know that you are not alone! I, too, have the same situation in terms of thinkign that I was a success and then everything went to heck in a hand basket! My life at the moment is one big experiment and there are times when I feel that I am making progress and other times when I feel like I am moving backwards, but I get up every day and KEEP TRYING! Please don't give up just keep trying, try to have faith in yourself and your core values...that's all we have in the end!

Best Wishes

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Old Apr 13, 2009, 02:32 AM
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Cajfh has no place in science. I have no more faith in myself. My children's all of mmother said I am hurting them. I am hurting, all of my faimily is hurting, my children are hurting. Nothing left to do now.
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Old Apr 13, 2009, 02:39 PM
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Cajfh has no place in science. I have no more faith in myself. My children's all of mmother said I am hurting them. I am hurting, all of my faimily is hurting, my children are hurting. Nothing left to do now.
Please just find something to hold onto, faith is not science based it is simply about believing that things will get better if we keep trying! This is temporary, permanent hurt is senseless and can be avoided! Please seek some help and support...we're here for you!

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Old Apr 13, 2009, 05:58 PM
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I educated myself in college and graduate school. I had a great job. Everyone told me I was a great Dad. Now I have no job, can't afford medicine, never leave my house, and can't get a job,and am told what a terrible father I am.
I believe in science; life is a science experiment. When doing research,you try your best to get them to work, thenyou move on when it seems to no longer work. Life, like everything to me is a science experiment. If it doesn't work, you move on. Sep 12th, Sep 12.

Constatine
Hey Constatine. I just wanna let you know you are not alone. I am either experiencing or have experienced many of the things you have mentioned. Most with in the last year.

Feel free to PM me anytime. I'm a math major & just 19 credits away from graduating. I am a father of 4 living kids & 2 that have passed. I have worked in Aerospace jobs, managed multiple restraunts simultaneously, own my house free & clear...all before I was 30.
I like how you said you educated yourself in college & grad school. I can relate to that. I've paid a ton to put myself through college & to tell the truth...get very little out of most of the classes as far as help. I typically teach it to myself. So your choice of wording there stuck out to me.
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Old Apr 14, 2009, 12:30 AM
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I wonder if Sept 12 is the day the science experiment ends = time to move on = I think this person is saying that if life doesn't get better by Sept 12 the experiment will end...life will end. This sounds so much like a suicide threat!!

If I am wrong, I DEEPLY apologize!!

If I am right...I DEEPLY want you to continue to reach out for support in your therapy, continue your meds, and continue reaching out to society.

I know first hand how it seems that life cannot and will not improve. I also know about setting time limits. I've said this before myself.

If you are wanting someone to read between the lines...I think I just did.

Please take care.....
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Old Apr 14, 2009, 05:11 AM
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Constatine I agree with what Elysium said. It sounds like you may be saying that if life doesn't get better by Sept. 12 you will check out of life. I too, hope I am wrong, but it sounds pretty basic what you are conveying.

Suicide is always a permanent solution to a temporary problem. I know because I've had to deal with that urge many times. Suicide always hurts the people we love and leaves them with questions they can never answer. Before you ever make a decision like that ask yourself if you would want your children to make that same choice. Statistics say that more people choose that path if their parents or a significan't person in their life kills himself.

No matter where you are in life right now you still matter to someone - even to a stranger like me.

NOW, if I misread your intentions, I too apologise. I would rather speak up and find myself wrong than wonder later and feel regret for my silence.

Keep talking and let people here support you. You matter.

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Old Apr 14, 2009, 10:23 AM
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I wonder if Sept 12 is the day the science experiment ends = time to move on = I think this person is saying that if life doesn't get better by Sept 12 the experiment will end...life will end. This sounds so much like a suicide threat!!

If I am wrong, I DEEPLY apologize!!

If I am right...I DEEPLY want you to continue to reach out for support in your therapy, continue your meds, and continue reaching out to society.

I know first hand how it seems that life cannot and will not improve. I also know about setting time limits. I've said this before myself.

If you are wanting someone to read between the lines...I think I just did.

Please take care.....
Yep that's the meaning that I took from it!

TJ
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