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The article was written by someone called Thunderwolf in 2008. Supposedly a 'nurses forum' but I just checked, anyone can join.
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I definitely understand why one would want to know who wrote the article, but I have to say, that the fact that it's an open forum for nurses and anyone could have written it, I know from first hand experience, that what that individual wrote about how inpatient mental health/behavioral units should treat their patients diagnosed with BPD, is pretty much how many of us have been treated when hospitalized. I was never diagnosed with this disorder until age 52, precipitated by a deep and severe depression, leading to hospitalization and the BPD diagnosis. Before being diagnosed, I functioned very well in society. Since getting out and recovering from the depression, I've continued to function well, holding down the same job for over twenty-eight years. The diagnosis and the treatment while in-patient taught me that I NEVER want to be hospitalized or seek that kind of treatment EVER again!
As someone in the mental health field, I hide my diagnosis because I know only too well how my colleagues (not all of them BUT a vast majority of them) feel, treat and talk about people like myself with the diagnosis of BPD. I have seen a small change in the treatment and conference presentations of people with BPD with the discovery of such treatments as DBT, Schema Therapy and Mentalizing Therapy, but therapists who are adequately trained in these manualized and research based therapys are few and far between. If you live in a rural remote area of the U.S., you are pretty much left to your own devices. And if you experience a personal crisis from being overwhelmed due to stress, hang onto your hat because if you're hospitalized, you are all too often in for a crushing and ugly mental health experience! Just my take on things. |
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Read some of the different comments from the comment section under the article. All I can say is the some of the comment both pissed me off and kind of made sense at the same time. Idk what to think right now, other than not to go back to a psych hospital anytime soon or ever for that matter, setting boundaries and rules for treatment are one thing but treating a patient like crap for their disorder and behaviors is another. Patients are there to get treatment and skills to help them, not be put down and told that they are "wasting time" and other such remarks, and just because bpd is harder to treat and aren't like other disorders doesn't mean it isn't worth treating, more understanding really is needed in the mental health community.
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If someone pushes and manipulates just for the mere fun of it..... not because they have fear or rage or anger or separation angst.... I really not tied this to borderline. The BPD'ers I met (even one who actually was so unpleasant that I hated her... she almost killed my friend's dog), acted out of some strong emotion when they tried to get their way. Like fear of being left. Or something else that really messed them up emotionally. Never calmly manipulating with good results. Their results were more just making things worse because they acted so on emotion.
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Sometimes, I wonder if mental health professionals complicate BPD recovery. |
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Thanks for posting this. |
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Personally I seen the view of the artical was how to treat them giving tips to the professionals but not those with the disorder, and keep them away from everyone else, basically how they view us and the other negative aspects I seen. that doesn't mean that there weren't some good "tips" that we couldn't use to manage our behaviors. It was just how the mental health community views and treats people with bpd and other such disorders that has irked a lot of us. I haven't been dx'ed as of yet but have been treated very similar how a bpd patient usually is treated in a psych hospital and I was on the "kids' unit, point is the opinion goes both ways.
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Oh boy does this need a trigger warning! Eff!
And I love how numbers 1 through 19 describe how to treat someone with BPD like a child, and then #20 says not to treat them like a child. I have one therapist who thinks I'm BPD, and another who thinks c-PTSD and definitely NOT BPD. I want to email this to my BPD Dx therapist and ask, "Is this how you see me??" |
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I don't think you should be gullible with anyone, not with patients either, but showing respect and caring should be the foundation of any treatment I think. You can be that and still challenge a client's perception if that is needed. |
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This is the first time i read this. Is it for nurses? It says, "...you are the nurse, the clinician." I hope for the love of all things holy that this is just meant for nurses, if they could just give us THAT....and not the whole GD inpatient unit.....b/c I know my last hospitalization, it was a few of the nurses that treated me with disrespect not the doctors, maybe I was lucky. I mean I hate to think in some hospitals this is what they are teaching the doctors....The whole article stinks. I hate s**t like this. Ive been treated a lot in NYC and Ive been lucky...I feel awful when I think about how behind the times other hospitals are and stereotyped BPDs are in other places...we are still the ugly step child of the mental health care system and we have a long way to go. How truly unfair to treat us like monsters. Sure there are a few good points in there, but i agree, overall it is GD negative and to anyone who really isnt very deep or educated yet, it is very influential in a powerful manner that could really hurt someone.
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