[GenCat]

I do when I am under a lot of stress and anxiety. Is this normal?

[Achy Turtle Armor]

I was wondering the same thing.

[greentires4me]

Its true for me I certainly get it.

[Kimaya]

Funny thing that, paranoid description... I was diagnosed BPD/PPD and I am still trying to figure out what the difference is between the "stress-related paranoid ideation" criteria from DSM-4 for BPD, and just plain paranoid personality.

Maybe it depends on the things you are paranoid about. Worrying that your friend is betraying you when you see them talking on the phone and can't hear them is BPDish. Worrying that the channel 6 news might be video taping your life is probably more just paranoid? Anyone else want to take a stab?

Anyway, either way, real paranoid psychosis (iirc) requires that you be completely unconvinced even in the face of evidence that your paranoid idea is false. Thus the 'transient' part of the BPD criteria. We can overcome our paranoia. So... can you overcome it? Does a small part of you know that your idea is just not logical?

As for hallucinations, well, even with depression its possible to have temporary psychosis. Never had them myself, but yes I have believed that the pizza guy put spiders on my food because they hate me ordering from them. Lovely world crazy can be.

[melania]

Yes i am paranoid sometimes but i dont see things thanks God...

[The_little_didgee]

Originally Posted by Kimaya

Maybe it depends on the things you are paranoid about. Worrying that your friend is betraying you when you see them talking on the phone and can't hear them is BPDish. Worrying that the channel 6 news might be video taping your life is probably more just paranoid? Anyone else want to take a stab?

BPD paranoia seems to be related to anxiety and relationships. The psychotic kind are usually bizarre, such as the FBI spying on a person through a webcam, and is a part of a delusion rather than a response to an interpersonal stressor.

Originally Posted by Kimaya

As for hallucinations, well, even with depression its possible to have temporary psychosis. Never had them myself, but yes I have believed that the pizza guy put spiders on my food because they hate me ordering from them. Lovely world crazy can be.

The psychotic symptoms in depression are usually mood congruent. For example, a person may believe they are dead or dying. Some people experience hallucinations without delusions as well.

[Kimaya]

Hey thanks for the insight, didgee. I am still not sure whether or not PPD fits me... but maybe it does. I might ask my NP when I see her again just to see her opinion.

I understand 'transient stress related paranoia' is a part of BPD. Dunno about hallucinations though.

I had the delusional kind although given my pdoc's wording of "insists she's paranoid" I'm guessing he thinks I'm a fake (Is it still paranoia if you realize these thoughts are probably wrong?)... Or maybe that was his way of letting me know that I'm not really paranoid because it's real.

[Kimaya]

Originally Posted by BeteNoire

(Is it still paranoia if you realize these thoughts are probably wrong?)...

I think that's where the difference in paranoid personality disorder or transient paranoia differ from actual paranoid psychosis (the pdoc who analyzed me and diagnosed my disorders). But, if it makes you feel better my psychiatrist isn't sure either and we have actually spent a good amount of time examining my behavior to decide. So, apparently it isn't always a clear case. :3

I know I am being paranoid when I think that someone did something to my car when it starts acting funny - but the ideas are still really distressing, especially when you have a list of suspects. It helps to LOL out myself and then, well it doesn't change the fact that I always think there is motive behind happenstance and begin fantasizing about retaliation.

People who have actual paranoid psychosis don't know they are being paranoid.

[trying2survive]

Originally Posted by GenCat

I do when I am under a lot of stress and anxiety. Is this normal?

i think the paranoia is, at least it is for me..i never see things but i think things..many things, crazy things..mainly relationship related( why hasn't she called me/texted me..is she mad..do i do something wrong? what did i do..i thought we were fine) that type of stuff.

i could care less about random people/the govt/etc things of that nature. only people that matter to me.

the stress of no contact really bothers me as i need constant attention, so from a BPD standpoint i think yes.

[Verity81]

Yes I can experience paranoia when very emotional. I can think that my loved ones want to get rid of me or they secretly hate me. When I hit crisis my paranoia goes through the roof! It borders on delusion, hence the term borderline idk? In crisis I have thought that an ex neighbour I was afraid of would come back to break into my house and attack me, that people could hear me through walls even when I was whispering, that I could get pregnant from toilet seats and toilet roll etc

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