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Old Mar 12, 2014, 09:37 AM
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It went real good at my pdoc today. I am switching from effexor to a new one called Fetzima. An SNRI. We will see how it goes.
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 10:05 AM
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Do you have to wean yourself off before you can switch to the new one Rx?
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 10:16 AM
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Only for a few days. I took 150 mg effexor this morning and tomorrow I will take 75mg. I will take 75mg Effexor for a week and then quit.
I start the Fetzima tomorrow and take 20mg for two days then take 40mg from then on.
Supposedly because they are both SNRI's the effexor withdrawal shouldn't be bad. I really have never had bad withdrawal coming off a med except for Paxil.
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Major Depressive Disorder
Anxiety Disorder with some paranoid delusions thrown in for fun.
Recovering Alcoholic and Addict
Possibly on low end of bi polar spectrum...trying to decide.

Male, 50

Fetzima 80mg
Lamictal 100mg
Remeron 30mg for sleep
Klonopin .5mg twice a day, cutting this back
Hugs from:
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 10:44 AM
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Hi,
I would like to ask for your opinion.
The only medication i was given was prozac. It was good to me. When i felt much better, doctor stopped the medication (in fact, what happened was that i went to overseas to a long trip, i lost the prozac and could not get a prescription there. I had not have the precaution to bring a prescription with me. While i was there i was ok without medication that is why the pdoc made the decision to leave me without prozac). After some time my treatment ended. Now, I need to go back to treatment again, but i am very reluctant and have many doubts and questions.
In your opinion/case, how important is medication for your well-being? I mean, do you think you could be better only with therapy (without meds)?
Please, do not feel obliged to answer
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 10:55 AM
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Hello,

Not trying to hijack the thread...I did okay without medication for about a full year, and was in a similar spot, reluctant to start any medication. Ultimately, I started medication again, and it seems to be working to some degree.

I think if you are in the right therapy, then you can do okay. Were you in therapy when you were on prozac?
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 11:15 AM
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zinco14532323 Hope the new med is effective!
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 11:29 AM
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Be VERY careful weaning off Effexor. It is notorious for causing nightmarish withdrawal. I tried to wean off over three weeks after going on a new med and ended up hospitalized. A lot of docs aren't familiar with the intensity of withdrawal, so please, PLEASE be careful!!!!!

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Old Mar 12, 2014, 11:34 AM
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gloamingone - Sorry to hear you had trouble coming off Effexor. I was on it once and was weaned off slowly with no side-effects.
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 01:32 PM
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I am sorry, i do not want to disrupt this thread, i will start a new one
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 01:35 PM
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It's fine clara22 I will answer your question later

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Major Depressive Disorder
Anxiety Disorder with some paranoid delusions thrown in for fun.
Recovering Alcoholic and Addict
Possibly on low end of bi polar spectrum...trying to decide.

Male, 50

Fetzima 80mg
Lamictal 100mg
Remeron 30mg for sleep
Klonopin .5mg twice a day, cutting this back
Thanks for this!
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 02:31 PM
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Be VERY careful weaning off Effexor. It is notorious for causing nightmarish withdrawal. I tried to wean off over three weeks after going on a new med and ended up hospitalized. A lot of docs aren't familiar with the intensity of withdrawal, so please, PLEASE be careful!!!!!

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He is aware of it. He thinks that because I am starting on another SNRI (same class as effexor) that it won't be a problem. I don't know if that is true.

I am not worried because I have quit taking effexor a number of times in the past fairly quickly without any problems.
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Major Depressive Disorder
Anxiety Disorder with some paranoid delusions thrown in for fun.
Recovering Alcoholic and Addict
Possibly on low end of bi polar spectrum...trying to decide.

Male, 50

Fetzima 80mg
Lamictal 100mg
Remeron 30mg for sleep
Klonopin .5mg twice a day, cutting this back
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 06:42 PM
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Oh, that's good. I'm glad it didn't bother you! :-)

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Old Mar 12, 2014, 07:32 PM
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Only for a few days. I took 150 mg effexor this morning and tomorrow I will take 75mg. I will take 75mg Effexor for a week and then quit.
I start the Fetzima tomorrow and take 20mg for two days then take 40mg from then on.
Supposedly because they are both SNRI's the effexor withdrawal shouldn't be bad. I really have never had bad withdrawal coming off a med except for Paxil.
Is there a generic name for Fetzima? In the UK meds are nearly always prescribed as generics.

Interesting that you're tapering one drug down and tapering one drug in at the same time. I've always been told to quit one fully, wait five days and start the new one. Like you, I don't usually get bad withdrawals, I'm down to 75mg Effexor today, I only had a couple of brain zaps at first and since then the withdrawal effects are no worse than a hangover. I'll do 37.5mg tomorrow and then quit, the short half life means nearly all the drug should be out of my system by now.

Hope Fetzima works for you.
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 08:01 PM
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I don't think there is a generic for it. It is to new.

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Major Depressive Disorder
Anxiety Disorder with some paranoid delusions thrown in for fun.
Recovering Alcoholic and Addict
Possibly on low end of bi polar spectrum...trying to decide.

Male, 50

Fetzima 80mg
Lamictal 100mg
Remeron 30mg for sleep
Klonopin .5mg twice a day, cutting this back
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 08:02 PM
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They have always had me taper down and taper up at the same time.

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The "paradox" is only a conflict between reality and your feeling of what reality "ought to be." -- Richard Feynman

Major Depressive Disorder
Anxiety Disorder with some paranoid delusions thrown in for fun.
Recovering Alcoholic and Addict
Possibly on low end of bi polar spectrum...trying to decide.

Male, 50

Fetzima 80mg
Lamictal 100mg
Remeron 30mg for sleep
Klonopin .5mg twice a day, cutting this back
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 08:36 PM
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That's a shame, even when new drugs get licensed in the UK the NHS takes forever to approve them.

Btw Have you ever taken MOAIs?
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 08:48 PM
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Hi,
I would like to ask for your opinion.
The only medication i was given was prozac. It was good to me. When i felt much better, doctor stopped the medication (in fact, what happened was that i went to overseas to a long trip, i lost the prozac and could not get a prescription there. I had not have the precaution to bring a prescription with me. While i was there i was ok without medication that is why the pdoc made the decision to leave me without prozac). After some time my treatment ended. Now, I need to go back to treatment again, but i am very reluctant and have many doubts and questions.
In your opinion/case, how important is medication for your well-being? I mean, do you think you could be better only with therapy (without meds)?
Please, do not feel obliged to answer
If your depression is caused by a chemical imbalance,IE dysthymia. etc. you need the Prozac, otherwise you can get along w/o it. My doc told me this.
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Old Mar 12, 2014, 09:18 PM
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I agree with marszy. I have a family history of depression so I stay on Prozac. I have tried therapy without Prozac, it didn't work as well. The medication really helps stabilize my moods.
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Old Mar 13, 2014, 06:52 AM
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That's a shame, even when new drugs get licensed in the UK the NHS takes forever to approve them.

Btw Have you ever taken MOAIs?
No I have never tried an MOAI or a Tricylic. Except Trazadone for sleep.

The UK seems to approve drugs faster than the US. I didn't know the NHS had to approve them too. Interesting to hear about the differences.
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The "paradox" is only a conflict between reality and your feeling of what reality "ought to be." -- Richard Feynman

Major Depressive Disorder
Anxiety Disorder with some paranoid delusions thrown in for fun.
Recovering Alcoholic and Addict
Possibly on low end of bi polar spectrum...trying to decide.

Male, 50

Fetzima 80mg
Lamictal 100mg
Remeron 30mg for sleep
Klonopin .5mg twice a day, cutting this back
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Old Mar 13, 2014, 08:58 PM
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No I have never tried an MOAI or a Tricylic. Except Trazadone for sleep.

The UK seems to approve drugs faster than the US. I didn't know the NHS had to approve them too. Interesting to hear about the differences.

There's an organisation called NICE, National Institute for Clinical Excellence. Basically NICE decides whether a new drug (or treatment) is cost effective &/or substantially different in indication or efficacy from what's already out there. So a drug can be licenced and in the British National Formulary, but not approved for use in the NHS (lol).
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