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Old Aug 04, 2014, 09:10 PM
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Approximately two week ago I had difficulty breathing and my doctor referred me to a cardiologist. I just left the cardiologists office and my head is reeling.

Not to keep this too long I'll try to put it down briefly. The doctor asked me all the standard questions regarding anxiety, caffiene, alcohol, drugs etc. I was quite frank as I was tired of lying to every professional.

When it came to my physical and he pushed up my sleeve he questioned my scars. It threw me totally off balance all of the sudden I was once again a 16 year old sitting in front of my therapist's stubborn intrusive gaze. I told him it's a thing of the past but he didn't let it go. He wanted to know all the answers as well checking me bodily to see if I harmed elsewhere. Then I got a 15 min chat with him regarding getting help for something that's obviously not being addressed. He told me that cardiology always involves 20% psychiatry. He can get me help if I want it. He can do it but I need to be willing.

Question here is do I go for the help he is offering? I'm paranoid. Is he being legit when offering to help me out here. Whether it's getting a doctor or speaking to my stubborn everything is perfect parents. Do I honestly want to start messing with this now in life? What will happen if I allow yet another opportunity to get past me.
I don't really have anyone In irl that I can hash this out with. He's waiting for my response and wants to hear from within 48 hours.
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Old Aug 04, 2014, 10:46 PM
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Hi, please take the help offered, what do you have to lose, and you might end up with just the right kind of help. I hope your heart checks out fine, but I'd say this doctor definitely has your best interest in mind, he only wants to get you the help you need. hugs to you
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Old Aug 05, 2014, 04:43 AM
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Please let him help you. He sounds pretty legit to me. When a doctor first saw my scars they didn't even try to offer me help or push me to talk. They asked about them I said nothing and he left it even though it was obvious. I wish something had been offered to me then, took me another three/four years to see my GP about it and another two years after that to get a therapist.

Things are bad for you right now and you need more support than you are getting. This might just be what you need.

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Old Aug 05, 2014, 05:42 AM
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((((((Idiot))))))

I have spent a lifetime going it alone, look where it got me. At the time I finally succumbed and set my mind to getting help I found I've built my brick wall too high and there isn't any help.

You should follow up this offer of help, if you find it isn't right for you or just the wrong time then you can always back out, but at least give it a go.
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Old Aug 05, 2014, 08:51 AM
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Hope you can follow up with this doctor's offer.
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Old Aug 05, 2014, 11:23 AM
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I definitely think you should take the help that is being offered. Sometimes I wish I would have a doctor that would push me that much to get answers out of me. I mean it never hurts to try.
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Old Aug 05, 2014, 12:46 PM
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Hello Idiot, there are lots of doctors that show us the door before you have even sat down. We all had one of those at some point sory to say. Then comes along the doctor that does genuinely does care about his/ her patients. I know its hard to "trust" anyone when you are paranoid but this doctor may be the best thing that has ever happened to you.

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Old Aug 05, 2014, 05:22 PM
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as i see it you have nothing to loose by putting your trust in him .
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Old Aug 05, 2014, 05:59 PM
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Pm'd you on this but just wanted to add that whatever you decide should be your decision. Of course I and many others here think you should... but the key to this is doing this for you, not anyone else or anyone else's opinion.

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Old Aug 06, 2014, 11:24 AM
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Thanks guys.

Called the doctor and left him a voicemail saying that I'll go for it. He called me back and I had another 20 minute chat with him at length and in detail regarding my previous experiences with getting and receiving help as well as my basic problems I'm currently going through.

He will be reaching out to some psychiatrists and will let me know. He asked me for my old therapist's contact info too.

Now the dreaded part is dealing with my parents.....I don't know where to start with that. I don't know what their response will be too all this. I don't know how to approach them nor what to tell them.
If I want to be under insurance they would need to know.
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Old Aug 06, 2014, 11:34 AM
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Would you find it easier writing it in a letter to them? That's how I first told people because I was too afraid to say it out loud. That way you can edit it and know that you have said all you needed to say, and they can't interrupt either. You can give them the letter, tell them to read and not to say a word until they have read it the whole way through.

I hope they can be understanding and supportive
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Old Aug 06, 2014, 01:14 PM
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I hope you get help. I have found there are many people who legitimately want to help. many professionals go into the field because they want to help. it is in their nature.

I like the letter approach to your parents. I have written long emails to my parents and they read it on a computer 20 ft away from me in another room.
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Old Aug 06, 2014, 02:07 PM
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Thanks for the advice on that, I tried the letter approach and it was badly received. Very badly. Therefore I don't think that's an option now.
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Old Aug 06, 2014, 03:19 PM
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You mean you tried it in the past or do you mean you did it today? I suppose in a similar way you could still write everything out and ask them to just listen while you read it to them with no interruptions? It's just a way to get all your thoughts ordered so you don't miss stuff out and get what you want to say said.
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Old Aug 06, 2014, 03:57 PM
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I've tried it in the past and the rebuke was something I don't want to re - live. They basically pulled me out of therapy against the advice of my school. And refused to allow me to go to a gp unattended either. The verbal assualt.....
Still unsure how to tell them.

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Old Aug 06, 2014, 08:21 PM
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I am very sorry to hear that. You need their support not rebuke. In denial I suppose.
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Old Aug 06, 2014, 08:25 PM
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I would recommend that you maybe try a family session or something like that with your therapist. That way you are not alone and still have support with you.
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Old Aug 06, 2014, 08:28 PM
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I would recommend that you maybe try a family session or something like that with your therapist. That way you are not alone and still have support with you.
It is true that sometimes people will listen and hear what an unbiased third party professional has to say about it.
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Old Aug 06, 2014, 09:42 PM
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I was on my way to bed and my mother asked me how the doc. Appointment went. I figured I might as well bite the bullet and just come out and say it.

I told her he (doctor) thinks it's related to anxiety and would like to refer me further. She jumped by trying to bring her forces in. Asking how one gets treated for stress.... If he first confirmed with my family doctor. And she needed me to explain what kind of doctor I would be referred to. She shuddered when she muttered whether it would be a psychiatrist. I just told her it's psychological and whoever deals with that.
Then she still continues and asks me to tell her word for word what I told him. ( Obviously I did none of that ) She was freaking out that I did something without speaking to her and she was trying to reinforce control.

She told me that whatever doctor I go to next she's coming with me.
Control freak. Worried how my father will take it now.
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Old Aug 07, 2014, 09:22 PM
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Good luck with your dad and strength to do your will
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Old Aug 08, 2014, 07:59 AM
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Being that I only spoke to my mother vaguely concerning getting professional help this doctor wanted me to first speak to a guidance counselor that works in the mental health dept for adults. The guidance counselor doesn't do it for a living yet rather to help others.

I met with him yesterday. What surprises me the most about it is that I told my parents I'm going out and they allowed it. Generally when such a statement is made their are a dozen follow up questions regarding why, when, where, with who, when I'll be back..... guess their minds were on other things at the time.

Not sure about the actual meeting. First time in years where I didn't lie through every question or remark. One thing he mentioned was that just like he's asking me questions I can ask him too. The question on my mind for him was did he ever SH. I asked him before I lost my nerve and though I assumed the answer he confirmed that he did indeed resort to self harm. It was more of a conversation and discussion after that rather then him asking questions and me answering.

I will be seeing him again. Though im not sure where to take it after.
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Old Aug 08, 2014, 01:40 PM
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So, in general, was it satisfactory?
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