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Old Apr 30, 2007, 12:31 PM
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the most depressing time to be awake when you shouldn't be.

Knowing there's a lot to achieve tomorrow but ACTUALLY it's 'today' now ... and not being able to go back to nienies land ... damn frustrating.

My useless sleep deprived -.00002 cents and succint, brilliant observation. Not.

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Old Apr 30, 2007, 12:41 PM
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i find that if i have a bad night im always awake around 4am as well and always manage to get back to sleep when the alarm is about to go of
hope you sleep better tonight
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Old Apr 30, 2007, 12:44 PM
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I agree it is the worst time - I stayed up until 1:30 and woke up at 6:30 - would like more sleep - just not interested in waking in the 2-4 a.m. slot.
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Old Apr 30, 2007, 12:58 PM
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dsf, i can sure relate. i've had early waking insomnia for a couple years now..... i always seem to wake up sometime between 3:30 and 5am, no matter what time i go to bed or what time i need to get up. sometimes i can get back to sleep but usually not.

sorry you're dealing with this dsf....
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Old Apr 30, 2007, 01:03 PM
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always manage to get back to sleep when the alarm is about to go of
hope you sleep better tonight

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Heh ain't that the truth Four am is

Thank you guys, I was pretty sure I was not the only one who gets this - it's seriously a bad time to be awake - not even the gym is open Four am is
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Old Apr 30, 2007, 01:17 PM
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Early awakening and not being able to go back to sleep is a classic symptom of depression.
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Old Apr 30, 2007, 02:56 PM
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dsf, i can sure relate. i've had early waking insomnia for a couple years now..... i always seem to wake up sometime between 3:30 and 5am, no matter what time i go to bed or what time i need to get up. sometimes i can get back to sleep but usually not.


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Oh this is ridiculous Four am is 7am Four am is

I have to get up in an hour ... technically less ...

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I have deadlines for a project today (not stressed about them but I needed to have a clear head).

OHhhhh sorry to complain but i am FRUSTRATED.
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Old Apr 30, 2007, 03:52 PM
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sorry you're so frustrated dsf..... i know how that feels.... i hope your project will turn out ok....
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Waking at 4 a.m. scares me. It puts up a depression flag for me particularly if 2 or more in a row. Such a bad time I remember in life that 4 a.m. was such a crappy scarey norm.
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Yes, I find it an anxious time. I slept okay last night but woke this morning from an "upsetting" dream; I solved a non-problem :-) There was a seatbelt under our car (and the underside of the car was also carpeted, maroon :-), attached to the bottom and my husband asked me what it was for. I actually figured it out and ran to tell my husband and then woke and was excited, wanted to "really" go tell him but then realized it was a dream (so he hadn't "really" been there) and that the whole problem/solution was dumb. Very depressing as I was so proud of figuring it out and worked hard on it! He did enjoy my solution though for real and we laughed. Good way to wake up.

Hope you get though today okay drunksunflower and sleep well tonight!
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Old Apr 30, 2007, 04:42 PM
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Heh Perna fun ...

I have read stuff about sleep deprivation actually reducing depression.

I have also been told by an expert that it's a load of bollocks.

But sometimes you get like you'll try anything - lol.

I can't find the proper article but it's referenced on Wikipedia.

As a treatment for depression
Recent studies show sleep deprivation has some potential in the treatment of depression. About 60% of patients, when sleep-deprived, show immediate recovery, with most relapsing the following night. The incidence of relapse can be decreased by combining sleep deprivation with medication [26]. Incidentally, many tricyclic antidepressants happen to suppress REM sleep, providing additional evidence for a link between mood and sleep [27
As a treatment for depression
Recent studies show sleep deprivation has some potential in the treatment of depression. About 60% of patients, when sleep-deprived, show immediate recovery, with most relapsing the following night. The incidence of relapse can be decreased by combining sleep deprivation with medication [26]. Incidentally, many tricyclic antidepressants happen to suppress REM sleep, providing additional evidence for a link between mood and sleep [27].
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Old Apr 30, 2007, 04:51 PM
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And btw - my secrets the next day are a good lashing of eye cream that reduces circles / puffy, and I don't wear any eye makeup to draw attention to it (I always show being tired round that area.

Any other tricks ladies?
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Old Apr 30, 2007, 05:12 PM
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http://www.mentalhealth.com/mag1/p5m-dp05.html

http://www.webmd.com/news/19991116/b...ion-depression

http://www.biopsychiatry.com/sleepd.htm

Enjoy :-)
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Old Apr 30, 2007, 05:31 PM
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Yap! It's the Swiss stuff I have read, thankies.

It concerns me that the dates on the articles are before 2000, but I thought I saw something recently that was new on it ... hmmm.

I wonder if one can sort of try this for oneself - stay up all night and see if you feel better the next day ...

Heh I feel like I will try almost anything right now to be less cat vomit.

Oh today is going to be a very very very long day ...

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waking up early is also a sign of getting old.
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Old Apr 30, 2007, 10:46 PM
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She isn't old.
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Old Apr 30, 2007, 11:22 PM
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waking up early is also a sign of getting old.

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Yap don't you naturally start needing only 6 hours?

I like my sleep when it happens :>
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Old Apr 30, 2007, 11:23 PM
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She isn't old.

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Lol ... thanks ... :|
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Old Apr 30, 2007, 11:31 PM
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Anyway I am just busy at work, lots of info buzzing round in head and a few impending deadlines. I don't normally get stressed but it may be subconscious. I had a couple of good insights, I even wrote them down around 5 am ... ^_^

Four am. can get screwed if it wakes me up tomorrow ...
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Old May 01, 2007, 12:04 PM
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LKLDK:LK:LFKD:LKF:LKPOEIRPOEJKRLKJKLAJWKLEJDKLSJFLKDJFKLDJLJFKFLKJWKEJWKLEJWKLEJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

grrrrrrrrrr

two freaking mornings in a row it is 4.08am

*cries*

only on laptop while i drink chamomile tea ... sigh.
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Old May 01, 2007, 12:13 PM
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What time did you go to bed? I sometimes wake up too early if I am too good at taking my vitamins :-) The B vitamins do give me more energy and often I wake early and ready to go.

Do you lay there and try to go back to sleep for any length of time or doze, etc. at all? Sometimes I get up, pee, go downstairs and have a "snack," (usually my Activia yogurt) adjust the temperature, maybe use my inhaler/make sure I get kinks out of shoulders and can breathe freely, and then try again. I do worry that that will be too "helpful" and become habit instead of sleeping later regularly. Other times I get up and "work" for a couple hours and wait until my husband gets up then go back to sleep so I can have the bed to myself without snoring :-)
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Old May 01, 2007, 12:21 PM
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I went to bed round midnight / a little after as I am more of an owl than a lark ... so I should have been able to get like till 6.30am?

And I am just SNAP awake.

I am trying someone's tea suggestion .... sigh.

I could bust out some work but then my brain will really get going Four am is

If I ever meet this '4 am' twat I shall murder it ...

Heh I am giving it a personality now.
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Old May 01, 2007, 12:26 PM
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By "work" I meant boring books :-) Reading too much/too long will make me sleepy no matter what the time of day.

If/when I wake at 4:00 again/tomorrow I'll think of you and give a swat to the twat for you :-)
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Old May 01, 2007, 12:30 PM
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I don't think I HAVE a boring book ... I am one of those shallow types who loves her trash every now and again ... and I'll never put it down.

I do have a govt dept strategy document that I am meant to read by next week ... imagine that could cure insomnia quite nicely.

Oh this is dumb and yes, lay the smackdown please.
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what made you think that i meant she was old?
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