mental illness is awful

what are you doing to regain your health....

I don't necessarily agree that mental illness can be cured, but I do believe that with time and proper treatment, it can be made manageable. Unfortunately so many people with mental illness seem to take it for granted and become non-compliant with things like their meds. This is just my opinion.

In my opinion, refusing to be drugged is frequently a sign of sanity and robust mental health.

You are brave, asking for help, speaking of fragility! I am in the health care field. It seems we have great compassion for others, and hold ourselves apart. For one with any MI, there is a certain fall from professional credibility, from the ability to be clear-thinking, fast, accurate. All trust may be lost. So, shame. Of course! But there are many, many of us with MI, medicated, and absolutely competent. It's not open enough, I think, and the support resources aren't enough. Especially since to care for others, one's limits need to be seen, to be able to ask for consult, for help, to refer. And sometimes, we need to just take a break, or change levels of responsibility. We need to be able to feel accepted, and to feel the same compassion for ourselves as for our patients. I think this situation has more attention than in the past, but. So, hugs.

Nothing yet apart from taking psychiatric meds and vitamins and minerals. I am not being able to exercise coz I feel weak and lack energy.

I will have to write down in my diary about what I can do to help myself after going thru all the suggestions given in this forum.

what do you think of those 10 foods...

They are delicious but I dont get to eat them frequently.
Maybe I'll have to go for a diet that includes most of them every day.

why don't you do that....also you could go to dr fuhrmans website....that may be helpful...he wrote the book EAT TO LIVE....it might help with your low energy...

The gut is the "second brain". Most of the neurotransmitters are generated there. The gut sends more messages to the brain than vice versa. The gut is home of the body's internal ecosystem. The center of the wheel. It's the primary barrier between the outside world and our inner world. It's where much of the immune system lives. When a doctor says that "treatment" for depression means taking drugs that alter or suppress symptoms, what he's saying is that he never studied the body as a whole and does not understand how it functions, and instead studied how to prescribe drugs to blunt the symptoms of disease.

So you know more than the doctors out there?
That's rather astounding....

Or maybe you meant to infer that just SOME doctors have "never studied the body as a whole...."

I was referring to doctors who prescribe brain altering drugs as alleged treatment for depression. I am implying that most or all of those doctors likely don't understand the body well enough to come up with anything else. This could also be due to laziness though. As for whether some doctors do understand well enough to root out the cause of depression in the case where it's physiological in nature (e.g. involving the gut), my experience says they are a tiny minority and mostly are to be found outside of the mainstream system.

Some of us are much improved.

I don't really see the point of threads like this where people bash treatments. We KNOW mental illness is "awful"....that's why we're here.

Can depression be created artificially in the lab? And excluding stuff like neurotoxins that may cause depression? I dont know why I have a feeling that it can be from outside by changing brain waves artificially inside the brain. In case that's true, even if it's for experimental purposes, how does the subject overcome this particular kind of depression? Is there a way?

Thank you little turtle for this thread and all your other threads

I think you have helped me more fuzzy....I like you grrrrrrrrr

I think you've helped many including me, I like you too grrrrrrr
Don't stop sharing here with your friends

Some of us have seen doctors who don't exactly give of their best, and to simply shut up and accept being fobbed off and treated like **** will not help anyone's mental health





Thanks budfox for sharing

I don't know

The subject of this thread was stating how awful mental illness is and how folks feel badly for others who are suffering alone. The thread has been taken way off topic and now debates are ensuing regarding treatments. This is not a debate site, this is a support site. At this time this thread will be closed for going off topic and debating.