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Old Apr 12, 2016, 09:30 AM
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the silver and golden rules are saying... do no harm....I have always thought about that mainly not hurting others....but I tend not to pay attention when I am hurting myself....when I am not standing up for myself I think I am hurting me...when I wanted to die what was I thinking....I don't usually wish others dead...why me...I was feeling guilty that I let my family down when I broke down...why should I feel guilty about breaking down with depression...
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Old Apr 12, 2016, 09:44 AM
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Hello little turtle: The Buddhist nun Pema Chödrön has written... criticism without compassion can be just mean... I believe that applies to our criticisms of ourselves... as well as of others. I wish you well...
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Old Apr 12, 2016, 11:38 AM
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i always try hard not to hurt anyone as well... but i later take it out on myself..
depression by itself will make us feel guilty... even if there is no reason for us to feel it...
to me its just one more of the symptoms that i try to handle the best i can and reassure myself that it is the depression making me feel that... because we cant do anything about the past even if we did do things to feel guilty about, but we can do something about the future and rectifying the guilt
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Old Apr 12, 2016, 12:14 PM
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i always try hard not to hurt anyone as well... but i later take it out on myself..
depression by itself will make us feel guilty... even if there is no reason for us to feel it...
to me its just one more of the symptoms that i try to handle the best i can and reassure myself that it is the depression making me feel that... because we cant do anything about the past even if we did do things to feel guilty about, but we can do something about the future and rectifying the guilt
why does depression make us feel guilty
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Old Apr 16, 2016, 09:08 AM
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why does depression make us feel guilty
I feel a lot of guilt....my past mistakes are past...what is really getting me is the guilt I feel on a daily basis....for things I am not doing and sometimes the way I am treating my wife...
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Old Apr 16, 2016, 09:25 AM
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I'm not sure exactly why we feel so much guilt over "mental health" issues ...

We certainly wouldn't feel guilty or beat ourselves up over "physical health" issues.

Perhaps it's because the illness is unseen and society judges what they can't see?

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well.. i feel guilty because i feel less than... i don't feel equal to others...
i feel i am damaged... i am ashamed... and i am afraid... but i wan't to change and have a miraculous life... but i can't... so the guilt starts.. and it is like a vortex... goes around in your head and amplifies... until you feel worthless... because you realize no matter how hard you try you can't... can't help yourself... can't help others... cant meet expectations... cant...
and when you try to explain to someone... or others close to you...
and they dont understand... or you get angry and frustrated and lash out in a way you dont mean to... or commit actions that you regret... abusing substances or harming yourself...
it is a vortex of shame and guilt...

Overcoming Guilt in Depression | World of Psychology

acceptance may be helpful... acknowledgement may be needed to move forward...
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Old Apr 16, 2016, 10:30 AM
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I'm not sure exactly why we feel so much guilt over "mental health" issues ...

We certainly wouldn't feel guilty or beat ourselves up over "physical health" issues.

Perhaps it's because the illness is unseen and society judges what they can't see?

I beat myself up about everything....maybe because I haven't measured up to some great big standard that I have set for myself....can I give this standard up...maybe...it is a habit...I am always checking...actually I have always been a very lazy person....I don't think that will change....
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Old Apr 16, 2016, 10:33 AM
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well.. i feel guilty because i feel less than... i don't feel equal to others...
i feel i am damaged... i am ashamed... and i am afraid... but i wan't to change and have a miraculous life... but i can't... so the guilt starts.. and it is like a vortex... goes around in your head and amplifies... until you feel worthless... because you realize no matter how hard you try you can't... can't help yourself... can't help others... cant meet expectations... cant...
and when you try to explain to someone... or others close to you...
and they dont understand... or you get angry and frustrated and lash out in a way you dont mean to... or commit actions that you regret... abusing substances or harming yourself...
it is a vortex of shame and guilt...

Overcoming Guilt in Depression | World of Psychology

acceptance may be helpful... acknowledgement may be needed to move forward...
I think do no harm is good....also being kind to others...but kind to yourself seems even harder...
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Old Apr 26, 2016, 09:48 AM
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do no harm....if you are human you will harm others and yourself...
but the guilt is a big problem for me...a big problem...
I don't seem to be able to forgive myself for what I have done...in the distant past
I cant let it go....it is like a abcess...any help out there
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