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Old Jan 02, 2017, 11:22 AM
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This seems simplistic but it's a common model and based on years of self-analysis, journaling, reading and seeing therapists when affordable:

1. Old negative expectations (learned situational fears and the associated self-limiting beliefs and behaviors) lead to
2. A chronic attitude of learned helplessness / external locus of control / passive resignation, which leads to
3. A daily lifestyle and recurrent disappointing outcomes which "just seems to sorta keep happening to me", and would cause stress and low mood states in most people!

See how you can wind up with three problems to solve at the same time? That gets pretty overwhelming. It can form a self-sustaining cycle. One additional stressor on top of the subtle chronic issues and I take that nosedive down the rabbit hole known as "a major depressive episode".

I see it as more of a tricky mental game than anything else. I've tried meds, tried therapy, and I strongly believe that the right kind of talk therapy / life changes approach is best for me based on the evidence. "Treatment resistant" in my case just means that trying to find a really effective med has been disappointing, and that not all therapeutic models work well on me.

Insight-oriented psychodynamic approaches, mindfulness, and action-oriented cognitive behavioral strategies used together seem to work the best for me personally. Based on my theory of what my depression really is, that could be expected. Also, I can't stress enough the importance of the right kind of social support and encouragement (which is why I like PC so much).
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Old Jan 02, 2017, 02:06 PM
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Hi friend,
that definitely makes sense. I'm glad to you have been able to come to such a clear conclusion of this monster inside of you.
It seems overwhelming to try and tackle three different things at once, but you said that they lead to one another. My t always talks about finding the one domino that you can push down to make all the other ones fall as well. Maybe your first problem is that domino?
I hope you are able to keep finding what works best for you. Hang in there!
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Old Jan 02, 2017, 02:35 PM
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I can't knock down that first domino. I was going to type I try every day and I fail every day. That's not true. It's more of how I define success. I got up, showered, dressed, kept my doctor's appointment, stopped for lunch. I am now exhausted and beating myself up because I swore I would not go back to bed today. There's so much I should do and I'm always tired from the meds. I'm overwhelmed and if I push myself too much I have a full on panic attack. The domimo analogy really resonated with me. Thanks.
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Old Jan 03, 2017, 03:13 PM
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Thanks Onward2ward for sharing this.
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