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Old Jun 13, 2018, 10:21 AM
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I’m a split paws. I’ve been split black by parents, therapists etc.

I don’t know how to “just move on” or how to “just think my parents weren’t the right parents for my needs” - there’s been too much “damage” as a T not so kindly pointed out

I’ve been flattened, abused, violated, misrepresented by those who “should” know better (irl)

I wish I was on another planet paws
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Old Jun 13, 2018, 11:30 AM
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there’s been too much “damage” as a T not so kindly pointed out
Divorcing this assessment from the "professional" who offered it, let's work with it and extend it more generally. It is not impossible a certain unknown percentage of PC members/posters are dealing with psychological issues of such depth and intensity that those issues are not easily addressed by the helping professions as they currently exist in the real world.

Too many care providers are too ready to "blame the patient" when their limited efforts do not produce expected, textbook results.

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Old Jun 13, 2018, 11:36 AM
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Divorcing this assessment from the "professional" who offered it, let's work with it and extend it more generally. It is not impossible a certain unknown percentage of PC members/posters are dealing with psychological issues of such depth and intensity that those issues are not easily addressed by the helping professions as they currently exist in the real world.

Too many care providers are too ready to "blame the patient" when their limited efforts do not produce expected, textbook results.

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He did “blame the patient” and so did that abusive “doctor”

He even told me that the “research” backed up what he said

T2 also said some very unhelpful things, they were about her and her ego

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Old Jun 13, 2018, 01:17 PM
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I'm pretty much damaged goods, too. Nobody said it in exactly those words but there have been lots of things close to it.

So, why can't they say something that explains the damage, and why their current methods don't work in a way that clients, coming from wherever we are coming from, can understand? I'm not intellectually stupid. How is it that I come across as damaged? Why is it that your methods fail to help with the damage? Have you considered trying to help come up with ways that I can get along in the world despite the damage? If I haven't been able to come up with them myself, maybe it's because the damage has limited my ability to do that? Helpers help blind people, for instance, by developing Braille and getting books published in Braille. And floor numbers in the elevator. All kinds of things to help the physically damaged. Why not us?

For years and years I heard that if I "worked hard" I could "change". I did work hard. What's changed is that I no longer trust therapists. And I believe that trusting them indiscriminately was part of the damage I went into therapy with.

So from that standpoint I am "better". But to take more than 50 years for that? And I still have no skills or confidence in how to get along in the world, to see and find my place in it, other than as a "mental patient". And I'm old. But not dead yet. Though often I wish I was, or feel like I'm going to disintegrate (again).

Therapy sucks and is often ineffective or harmful. That's the the result of my experience, of my personal "research". It's also my truth. Therapists may have their own truth, their own research, but it hasn't helped me much, despite me paying their fees and "working hard". So I think I'll stick with mine, unless something comes up that convinces me otherwise.
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Old Jun 13, 2018, 01:41 PM
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I know what you mean I’m not “intellectually stupid” either ... even the sub optimal therapist didn’t claim that. I think things are even worse help wise in this forest . Of course, there will always be some who disagree with me.

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Old Jun 13, 2018, 07:37 PM
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Yes, I've had some pretty awful experiences with the doctors and the therapists along the way as well Fuzzy, and you're right, it's not something you can easily sweep under the carpet. I wish I had the answer Fuzzy. I'm lucky, meds are helping me a bit, but they're the only things that helped, my goodness. Stay strong in your good spirit Fuzzy, things will change for the best eventually, I do believe that. Many hugs and blessings to you.

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Old Jun 14, 2018, 10:55 AM
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Yes, I've had some pretty awful experiences with the doctors and the therapists along the way as well Fuzzy, and you're right, it's not something you can easily sweep under the carpet. I wish I had the answer Fuzzy. I'm lucky, meds are helping me a bit, but they're the only things that helped, my goodness. Stay strong in your good spirit Fuzzy, things will change for the best eventually, I do believe that. Many hugs and blessings to you.

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Old Jun 14, 2018, 12:41 PM
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fuzzy what would help you the most...what helps the most FOR YOU....
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