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At what point should I be worried about my natural tendency to revert to thoughts of suicide when I have difficult moments?

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Old Nov 06, 2018, 07:23 PM
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At what point should I be worried about my natural tendency to revert to thoughts of suicide when I have difficult moments?
line in the sand is that each location and mental health agency has their own rules about this kind of thing.

to find out whats what on this where you are you will need to contact your medical doctor or a mental health treatment provider who can tell you what the laws and mental health protocals where you are stands on this issue.

here where I am if a treatment provider feels the person is going to act on their thoughts they must be hospitalized to go through the assessments for whether the person is really a danger to their self or others. but otherwise thoughts are ok actions are not here where I am located (NY state)
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Hey, Ginger ^_^ I honestly relate to this problem, and what I found to be a warning point is when those suicide thoughts are painted more as the only solution to your problem. Like you think less and less of any hopeful futures or alternatives that could help ease your mind. At this point, it's best to reach a counselor or someone who can help in your area. Hope this helped~
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I definitely recommend seeing a therapist to help you with these.

Suicidal thoughts are always cognitive distortions and a trained therapist can help you reframe these thoughts. They may not ever go away for good, but you can definitely learn how to give them less control in your life.
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At what point should I be worried about my natural tendency to revert to thoughts of suicide when I have difficult moments?
I would say now is the time to be concerned ... Especially if you think you may act on it ... I've lived with what's known as "suicidal ideation" my whole life, but after finding a good mental health professional (one that is willing to explore the why of it with me without automatically freaking out and putting me in the hospital), I've come to understand why I do this and it has lessened the duration and intensity of these thoughts whenever I'm having a rough time coping and dealing with life now.

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Old Nov 06, 2018, 09:42 PM
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At what point should I be worried about my natural tendency to revert to thoughts of suicide when I have difficult moments?
I struggled with this all the time myself!
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Old Nov 06, 2018, 09:46 PM
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line in the sand is that each location and mental health agency has their own rules about this kind of thing.

to find out whats what on this where you are you will need to contact your medical doctor or a mental health treatment provider who can tell you what the laws and mental health protocals where you are stands on this issue.

here where I am if a treatment provider feels the person is going to act on their thoughts they must be hospitalized to go through the assessments for whether the person is really a danger to their self or others. but otherwise thoughts are ok actions are not here where I am located (NY state)

In my state it depend on what kind of doctor treat the patient as to whether or not they hospitalized the patience depending on the severity of the situation.
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Hey, Ginger ^_^ I honestly relate to this problem, and what I found to be a warning point is when those suicide thoughts are painted more as the only solution to your problem. Like you think less and less of any hopeful futures or alternatives that could help ease your mind. At this point, it's best to reach a counselor or someone who can help in your area. Hope this helped~
I feel like this all the time myself! I had to create a safety plan that has positive motivation.
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Old Nov 06, 2018, 09:51 PM
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I definitely recommend seeing a therapist to help you with these.

Suicidal thoughts are always cognitive distortions and a trained therapist can help you reframe these thoughts. They may not ever go away for good, but you can definitely learn how to give them less control in your life.
I wish that I had thought about this before my brother in law end his life
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I would say now is the time to be concerned ... Especially if you think you may act on it ... I've lived with what's known as "suicidal ideation" my whole life, but after finding a good mental health professional (one that is willing to explore the why of it with me without automatically freaking out and putting me in the hospital), I've come to understand why I do this and it has lessened the duration and intensity of these thoughts whenever I'm having a rough time coping and dealing with life now.

I am the same way. That why I created a safety plan for just in case.
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Old Nov 06, 2018, 10:23 PM
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line in the sand is that each location and mental health agency has their own rules about this kind of thing.

to find out whats what on this where you are you will need to contact your medical doctor or a mental health treatment provider who can tell you what the laws and mental health protocals where you are stands on this issue.

here where I am if a treatment provider feels the person is going to act on their thoughts they must be hospitalized to go through the assessments for whether the person is really a danger to their self or others. but otherwise thoughts are ok actions are not here where I am located (NY state)
I see. I got in contact with a mental wellness facility where I live to ask about seeing a psychiatrist or psychologist (I did not specify why) and they told me I'd have to go to a GP first to then get referred. The thought of talking to anyone about this stuff frightens me. It doesn't help that healthcare in my country is just overall poor but I'm hoping I can figure this out sooner than later.
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Old Nov 06, 2018, 10:27 PM
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Hey, Ginger ^_^ I honestly relate to this problem, and what I found to be a warning point is when those suicide thoughts are painted more as the only solution to your problem. Like you think less and less of any hopeful futures or alternatives that could help ease your mind. At this point, it's best to reach a counselor or someone who can help in your area. Hope this helped~
It did help, thank you. It's always good to hear from someone who can relate and relay a positive message. I use to have these thoughts mildly as a teen and noticed they have worsened over time (adult life is its own beast). Heading more and more along the lines of what you are referring to. I will try to muster up the courage to get a professional involved.
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Old Nov 06, 2018, 10:31 PM
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I definitely recommend seeing a therapist to help you with these.

Suicidal thoughts are always cognitive distortions and a trained therapist can help you reframe these thoughts. They may not ever go away for good, but you can definitely learn how to give them less control in your life.
Thank you for this response. I will be looking into therapy.
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Old Nov 06, 2018, 10:33 PM
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I am the same way. That why I created a safety plan for just in case.
It can be tough. Wish you the best in overcoming this. Does you safety plan include calling someone you trust?
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Old Nov 06, 2018, 10:36 PM
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I would say now is the time to be concerned ... Especially if you think you may act on it ... I've lived with what's known as "suicidal ideation" my whole life, but after finding a good mental health professional (one that is willing to explore the why of it with me without automatically freaking out and putting me in the hospital), I've come to understand why I do this and it has lessened the duration and intensity of these thoughts whenever I'm having a rough time coping and dealing with life now.

Good for you, really. I will try to reach out to some for sure. Thanks for your help.
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I can relate to this. It seems to be my default mode when life gets really tough and it’s frustrating. I think therapy is good and so is a safety plan...I have both. I’ve had these feelings for so long now that I’ve learned to surf them and can tell when it has passed a certain point and I need to get help.

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Suicidal thougths are always worrying... I agree with therapy and preparing a safety plan for when they become really bad.
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Old Nov 07, 2018, 09:41 PM
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I can relate to this. It seems to be my default mode when life gets really tough and it’s frustrating. I think therapy is good and so is a safety plan...I have both. I’ve had these feelings for so long now that I’ve learned to surf them and can tell when it has passed a certain point and I need to get help.

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Thank you. I usually ride them out as well. Mainly I get concerned about it when I consider that some who commit suicide later in life seem to have been plagued by the thoughts their whole life. I don't want to head down that road.
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Old Nov 07, 2018, 09:42 PM
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Suicidal thougths are always worrying... I agree with therapy and preparing a safety plan for when they become really bad.
yes. I'll look into it. Thanks a lot.
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