[(JD)]

weird and I'll check it out

but I think I just read something about how all depressed people are lacking folic acid it'a a B vitamin and taking a multi vitamin will give enough to correct the deficiency and correct many ppl's depression

can anything be this easy? why wouldn't our doctors check this?

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[Wants2Fly]

I often feel bette when I take massive doses of Vitamin B. In fact, I have a note kicking around the house to remind me. Brewer's yeast in juice seems to work best, but it gets tedious to drink after a while. Pills have never been as effective for me. I don't know if yeast has a lot of folic acid in it.

[SeptemberMorn]

When this first started for me years and years ago, Stress Tabs used to do it for me. I can't find Stress Tabs anymore and the plain B complex doesn't do it for me even in mega dozes. I've known for a long time that B complex is supposed to be good for nerves, though. Where did you read it?





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[dexter]

I don't think anything could be "that easy" but it could definitely be a component worth looking into or at least asking the doc about.

I take a folic acid supplement because of the sulfa meds I take for my colitis. The addiional folic acid sure didn't prevent me from becoming depressed... but on the other hand maybe even with the suppliment, the sulfa meds were depleting my vitamin more than the folic acid was making up for it and maybe that was a contribuing factor.

Doctor's might not check this because not all docs are up on all the latest news and not all of them subscribe to all the medical "philosophies". Asian medicine for example puts a lot of emphasis on emotional health and "energy" in addition to drugs and surgery... and although I believe many modern reports are showing definite positive effects for such treatments, western medicine has yet to catch up. So it is worth asking about I think, and maybe a few different opinions from different docs.

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[(JD)]

oh for heaven's sake do y'all see the ads on the bottom now? they're tracking our posts and targeting us.

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[dexter]

sky... the ads on the bottom always do that. They search the text of the page and try to post ads that might be appropriate, sometimes their "guess" is pretty funny.

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[LadyDragus]

sky, taking a mulitvitiam, can help you to feel better because it may give you the vitamns and minerals you are missing from not either eating correctly (i'm on a limb) and if you do not do this taking one can help..

The best medicane for deperssion is of course talking to your p doc and your thearpist, and of course stayin on the treatment that you have been on..

I have started a new diet, and it says that exersice and mulitvatiamns can help with the deperssion only if you want to lose the wieght, and want to feel better

I hope this helps, with what you were aksing..

as for Folic acid, it is manly for pregnant woman and does not have any studies shown for depession.. I could not find any on the net

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[SeptemberMorn]

LOL I didn't know that until a few days ago when Dex pointed it out on the Pets and Fun Things. Sneaky devils!!




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[dexter]

It first caught my eye a while ago... don't remember exactly but it was like someone mentioned "clearing their pipes" referencing clearing their throat, and the ads on the bottom of the page were all for plumbing supplies

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[SeptemberMorn]

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[(JD)]

gee I wish I could recall where I read or heard this it WAS just this last week though... so very recently..

I can't take usual vitamins... my body doesn't break them down... the pill especially...

well, this new topamax was supposed to be authorized for weight loss too... not why I've been given it... but as is usual for my body, I have reacted opposite to something and gained 12 lbs in the 3 weeks I have been on it! And now the dose has been tripled!

I won't die fat! I only eat one meal a day, NOW what am I to do????

forget the folic acid just give me the acid!

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[(JD)]

Ok dex let's see if it picks up on the Acid comment or if it is only on the subject line?



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[mj14]

Sky, one of the people in my group therapy was taking folic acid at the recommendation of her psychiatrist. She recently saw a different psychiatrist who told her that folic acid is useless. So it doesn't appear that there is consensus among doctors...I will add, though, that the one who recommended it is a younger doctor, so it may just be that the older one was responding negatively to a "non-traditional" treatment.

Anyway, not sure if that helps at all, but I thought I would pass it along.

mj

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[LadyDragus]

actually Topmax can make you gain weight.. not lose weight..
I am on, it and I constantly fight the battle to lose my weight..

i am on it for migranes.. Watch what you eat.. Eat five smaller meals per day, Go to this site http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/dga/
This site may help you in trying to battle the weight.. I use it ok..
I know how hard it is to fight the weight battel trust me..
Eat less fatty foods for one thing..
Watch your sugar intake, and stuff like that.. Also call your doctor if you have gained that much weight in that little bit of time ok.. Topmax should not do that to you that quickly ok..


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[(JD)]

sheesh how can that be? My MD said it was about to be ok'd by the FDA as a weight loss drug (Topamax)????

Like I think I say from time to time... I don't cook... I can't handle menues.. shopping, food prep etc so I only eat out once a day and usually bring half home to eat later... and I only drink water and don't snack or anything....

I'm not a sweets person... unless altoids count but I lost my sense of smell and taste in the accident so I wouldn't know anyway...

I just saw my MD.. she tripled my dose. Maybe I will die fat.

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[krzyk101]

Hi,

I had inquired with my MD about B-12 injections, and she said that she would have to check my folic acid before the Vitamin B-12 injections. I had seen alot of people over time coming in to the my MD's office for Vitamin B-12 shots. She says the injections are good for general well being over all. You said you can not tolerate Vitamins in pill form.

I was on Topamax for bi polar for a few weeks, I did not loose any weight, only had Neuro. problems with it, and had to go off it. Some I have known one who actually had to stop taking it as it caused her anerexia due to the lack of appetite and she lost too much weight and had to be hospitalized. I would hope maybe the increased dose will help with the weight loss. I wish I could take it and loose weight myself.


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[SeptemberMorn]

You're not eating enough. When I was on Jenny Craig, they told us that the body goes in to starvation mode when you only eat once a day. It's best to eat several small meals a day so your body doesn't think it has to hang on to everything you put into it.

Yeah, right. Look who's talking!





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[LadyDragus]

hmmm.......
I quess you are correct..
I just went and looked it up, and it is uesed as a weight loss drug.. but what doss are you on.. I am only on 100mg?????
and if you do not eat 3 meals a day, that is why your body is "gaining weight" cause it is fasting, because it is not getting enough food to work correctly..
You hvae to have a steady flow of engery in yoru body for it to work correclty, and if it does not you will gain weight..

You do need to talk to your Doc about this Sky.. I am worried honey.. I would hate for you to get sicker.. I really would..

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[(JD)]

oh I didn't mean for this to become about me!

No I haven't been able to manage three or more meals/snacks a day for over 5 years... when I moved the insurance co. took it as a sign to quit providing a house keeper/cook for me... so I have only eaten once a day for all this time... at a restaurant usually mid afternoon...

so nothing else changed but the topamax and also, the MD has been decreasing my pain med, so that and the pain is of course being sensed more...

I am seriously non nourished! My iron is 7.4. I spent my own money on this, even though is should have been convered by ins. (not only due to my injury and inability to do these things, but also due to the injury and my jaw problems and not chewing food) spent $600 and he gave me iron pills that my body refuses... makes me terribly nauseated and ... well I told them I had already tried them ( my md and I had tried all the iron pills and that's why Iwent to him) so he said to take them for 6 months and then go back so I asked, I can't go to the bathroom for 6 months??? no, don't take them if they make you sick. Well, I had already told him that. That was that. $600 bucks.

Then my neurologist wrote that I was non compliant with the other doctor for my iron. huh? I paid him over $400 twice for that info.

Sorry. More info than you asked for. can't do it on my own. Can't coordinate any help. can't fight my doctors and attorney for help. Tried. Tired. Passive suicide.

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