[SeptemberMorn]

I can't believe it!!!! Yesterday, we went for the prelim hearing on the TRO on my neighbor. We didn't even get to talk to the judge!!! He denied it!!!

Apparently him calling the cops, Animal Control, the fire dept, etc. on me every time I make a move ISN'T harassment! The time he played games with my neighbor and I on the streets MAY have been considered harassment. Maybe, just maybe the fact that he came to my back fence and called a friend and me names MAY be called harassment... ACCORDING TO THE COURT... not the police! What the hell is wrong with our justice system??? The police say one thing, such as "get a restraining order and you'll make my job easier" and then an attorney and the judge says "Oh, they don't know what they're talking about! They always say that!" EXCUSE ME???? It seems to me that lawyers and judges have set themselves up as GOD! The wind has been slammed out of my wings. Do I have to continue living across the street from this alcoholic nut case for the rest of my life?? It's against the manager's precious "Rules and Regs" of the park to have tall fences around the inside properties. I just might dare the stupid, old manager to try and do something when I put mine up! Her excuse to me about not doing anything about this idiot was "He doesn't listen to me, anyway." Oh yeah?? If he can get away with his crap then, by golly, I'm putting a fence around my property whether she likes it or not!! Her motto is NO EVICTIONS. HAHA Fine! I won't be facing that... just her *****ing... if she can get past my gate!! I've refused to give her my phone number because I know how she'll use it!

More bad news... Jerry left for Canada... AGAIN... this morning!

More bad news... The latest baby dove is missing. It was almost full grown. There's no place where it could have gotten out. SomeONE had to have stolen it! I wonder who?!?!

More bad news... My cat has been missing for two days. In fact, both the bird and the cat disappeared the same day!

@#$ %& @ #$%&*!!!!!

[inkblot]

It's true, the justice system is in need of some changes! Sorry hear about the missing dove (and kitty?!) Hmmmm

[silver_queen]

Wow yeah, the justice system isn't always just...

Hope you get your bird and cat back ok...

[Fuzzybear]

((((((((((((((((((((Tomi))))))))))))))))))))

[mj14]

Tomi,

I'm sorry you're having such a rough time of things. It is good that kitty came back, though.

As for the TRO, will it be possible for you to file for one again in the future? I went through that with an ex of mine, and I can tell you what the lawyer told me. The courts view a restraining order as taking away some of a person's freedom, so they set the bar pretty high...almost as high as to convict someone of a crime. So the best way to get a TRO on this guy is to make a case that you feel your safety is being threatened by this guy. Every time he says anything remotely threatening, write down the date, and what he said as close to word-for-word as you can. If you frame it as much as possible like you are afraid of this guy, and feel like he is going to harm you physically, you're much more likely to be granted the TRO. I know it's not fair...they should protect you from this harrassment...but sometimes you have to play the game by the court's rules.

As far as the police understanding the rules, they really don't have an understanding of how hard it can be to get a TRO. A little more than a year after my ex had been served with the Protection Order, he called the local police to ask if it was still in effect. Lucky for me, they told him yes, even though it expired after a year. They then called me to let me know he had done this, and said that I should get a new protection order. But, the courts will not grant one unless he has actually threatened me, which he didn't. I know the police really were concerned with my own welfare, but they really don't understand the court system.

Anyway, sorry for my long story...I do hope things look up for you soon.

{{{{{{{{{{Tomi}}}}}}}}}

Jo

[SeptemberMorn]

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Jo}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} Thanks for your "long" story, Hun. It is validating. For now, I'm just gonna try to close myself off from him. But if it starts up again, I'm going to re-write everything I wrote down in the journal I kept. In going over it, it was ambiguous at best. Instead of saying "he" called the police, I said "police called." One of the lawyers that looked at my forms thought the police had called me! I don't think she understands the English language very well, but then I might be misplacing the "fault," if you know what I mean.

Somewhere towards the end of the list of complaints, I did say I was afraid for my safety but if/when I re-write it, that item will appear somewhere close to the top, that's for sure! If he chases us down the road again, you can bet I'll put my cell phone to good use and maybe even keep him "baited" till the cops catch up to him! No doubt he'll be drunk. Sorry SOB! There's more than one way to skin an animal!

[wisewoman]

Hey there sweetie, still pooped but want to tell you I have ideas about your neighbor. I should p.m. you or catch you in chat. I am wishing you the very best. I want to tell you that I had an incredible experience yesterday. !% years ago I went to the local hospital to see a friend in labor. Yesterday I went and saw a co-worker a few hours after her son was born. Parents were in shock and awe and baby was a cone head. Just through the other door I had attended most of a death last week. I saw this living baby that I had felt for months through mom's belly and there she was with a soft belly. It was healing for me to see him. Hope this makes sense. I think it's about life and death and the continuity of it all. It was such a trip because my kids were born no fuss at home and I did not know what was going on in the hospital and why they did certain things. Like 4 or so hours after baby they still wanted to go watch her pee. Heck I was driving my three year old to the local store for icecream at this point because he was feeling out of sorts without his mom fussing over him. Left the infant with hubby for 20 minutes and wondered if I was supposed to be driving but no one ever told me not to so... Also about an hour after 2nd was born I had gone to get some food and there was orange juice all over the floor so I was mopping the kitchen floor. Anyway, seeing her in the hospital like that was kinda cool and seeing this wee baby and hearing mom say 'oh my, I don't know what to do if you cry 'was just too cute and wonderful.

[SeptemberMorn]

There's nothing quite the the birth of a baby, is there?

[wisewoman]

Oh, it happens every day but not to all of us. How wonderful to see the cycle complete. Now the problem is I want to go hold him and care for him but I think his mom might object. Got to wait for her to be ready to share huh? life goes on Sept, yours will too. Peace to you sweetie.

[shakes]

(((Sis Tomi)))))
I am sorry that I don't have more right now

Jessica

[SeptemberMorn]

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Jessica}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} You don't always have to have "more." You, yourself is often enough, like now. Is there anything I can do for you? What's up, Hun? Talk to me. {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Jess}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

[dexter]

Put up the fence if you want to, and if the landlady complains tell her if he "doesn't listen to her anyway" then why should you have to listen to her either? If she isn't going to do anything to protect you then you'll have to protect yourself, and if you're not doing anything worse than he is doing ("not listening to her anyway") then she really can't do anything about it without taking him to task for it first.

I hope you can find a better solution than putting up a fence though. You shouldn't have to isolate yourself all around just to protect yourself from one neighbor.

[SeptemberMorn]

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Dave}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} Those are my thoughts exactly! I can counteract the effects of the fence by inviting in all the neighbors. There's not much social activity in this park anyway. Ding Dong manager doesn't allow anyone to use the clubhouse except for Monday night bingo. I've never been one to entertain, but it's never too late to start.

It's a dirty shame that I have to isolate myself with a fence but my sanity is important enough to me that I'll do it if I can't find any other recourse to live my life in peace. If the manager gives me enough grief, I'll just have to send an official complaint to the owners. The form is already filled out! LOL

Dave, thanks so much for taking the time and trouble to answer my post. It's really appreciated! You're one of a kind!