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Old Jun 09, 2008, 10:29 PM
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Tell me again..... Why is suicide such a bad idea???

And, if in fact it is "just" my depression talking, then why is my depression so much more believable then my intellectual self????

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Old Jun 09, 2008, 11:23 PM
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{{{{{Danialla}}}}}}} I don't have a real answer for you as I am in a really bad spot myself and having the same argument that you are.

I did want you to know that I am thinking of you and hoping you find the right answer - the one that will keep you alive. Please take care of yourself and know that I am thinking of you.

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Old Jun 10, 2008, 12:59 AM
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Same here. I'm still coping with my depression and it's been 6 months since I got out of the hospital. I'm not yet well seeing as I still find myself contemplating about suicide and stuff.

My mind tells me it's bad. Talking to a friend or a family member may help? I don't talk about it to anyone from my family coz they never understand me... I just talk to 1-3 friends. They guide my thoughts and actions, and help me realize that I have every reason to live, no matter how I think I don't.

Hope you'll find answers to your questions soon ;]

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Old Jun 10, 2008, 01:20 AM
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Well, I'd say it's bad just b/c it's the end.

No more laughter over cheesey reality tv, no more near puking at political pundits, no more wonderment of cute baby animals, no more pizza, oh I LOVE pizza, etc...

I don't know... I am here as a testament to the fact that weird and amazing things can happen... so maybe your life will do a 180 tomorrow??? Ya never know...

What helps me pull out of a funk is to imagine that some acquaintance died (morbid, right?) and left me $180million dollars... and I plan how I'm going to spend it.

Hope you feel better soon.
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Old Jun 10, 2008, 03:00 AM
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Hi Danialla,

First off, hugs Tell me again..... ((((((((((Danialla))))))))))

Now, having attempted suicide several times, I've forced myself, in moments when I feel I have no reason to live, at least to find reasons I have not to DIE.

Emotional reasons:

1) No matter what you may feel at any given moment, there will ALWAYS be AT LEAST one person who will be crushed by losing you. In essence, you're giving your problems over to them. If you can't bring yourself to love yourself at a certain moment, at least find someone else you love and ask yourself, "Do I want to hurt this person?"

2) Suicidal ideation is always temporary. No matter how down and out you feel, the only place you can go is up, so biding your time will pay off in the end. Would you deny someone who wanted to live their right to live? Then don't deny your future self, who will almost certainly want to live at some point, that right.

I can give more, but I'm really exhausted, so I'm not thinking well. PM me if you'd like more emotional reasons not to kill yourself.

Now, if you're inclined to philosophy like I am, then you will find an excellent intellectual argument against suicide in Albert Camus's The Myth of Sisyphus . I love existential philosophy, and if you would like to find intellectual reasons not to kill yourself, look up some of the preeminent existentialists (Camus, Sartre, and my favorite, Simone de Beauvoir). A brief and somewhat lax synopsis of Camus: life is absurd. There is no inherent meaning. The only opportunity to find meaning is by providing your own. Killing oneself nullifies you're only venue to finding meaning, namely a constant rebellion against the absurdity of life. If you kill yourself, the Absurd wins.

I'm really wiped out, so that definitely wasn't a synopsis that did Camus justice. PM me if you wanna hear more.

But most importantly, know that people do care about you. Even if you don't always feel it (I know that feeling), people love you. We definitely care about you, and would not want to see you take your own life. Make sure to love yourself--you are deserving of your love.

Take care and keep fighting the good fight,

Tell me again..... Tell me again..... Tell me again..... (((((((((((Danialla))))))))))))

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Old Jun 10, 2008, 06:43 AM
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Depression can really distort thinking making options seem different than they really are. Even though things may seem bleak now there really is more to life than you are seeing right at this time. I know it may be hard to believe but it is true. Do you have a t? It is always good to have someone to talk to and get support. Please find someone that can help you. If you feel very depressed please go to the ER or call a help line. They can help you there.

Please take care and try and remember this is a temporary situation and things will improve. I am sorry you are feeling so bad.

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Old Jun 10, 2008, 07:22 AM
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(((((((((Danialla))))))))))))))

Because depression distorts our thinking and how we're feeling ... it makes our emotional selves stronger than our intellectual selves... it is a hard cycle to beat.

Please be safe.
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Old Jun 10, 2008, 02:25 PM
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Oh Danialla,

I'll tell you as many times as you need to here it ... it's the depressed mind that harbors these thoughts.

The thoughts are not permanent. The action is though. Don't give it any power over your decision making.

LikeSingleGirl said .. weird and amazing things can happen so you must stick around.

love,
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