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Old Jan 05, 2009, 12:40 PM
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I just wanted to see if anyone has any advice on how to deal with my brother. He came back into my life about a month or so ago after having no contact for years. He is severely depressed and sends me text messages like this I need hope that there is more to life then suffuring I just dont think its to be found.

SO I say there is and he gets mad and says i dont want any of that feel good bullshi* you cant tell me your life has been anything but endless suffering.

Then I get scared and say ar you ok? And he says oh god no I am one breath away from......

He says he gets depressed in the winter. I just dont know how to help him. He is so sad and he wont listen to me or believe me that i am ok even though we had such a horriable childhood I am ok and I have not always had suffering every day. he doesnt believe that.
What do i say to him???
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Old Jan 05, 2009, 12:43 PM
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((((((((((((((( MINIME and brother )))))))))))))))))))

Have you asked him if he is interested in seeing a therapist?
I am sending you many hugs
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Old Jan 05, 2009, 12:53 PM
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I barely know him and I don think he would go to therapy.i want him to but he probably wont. He is very sweet, and has a lot of guilt about stuff. My mom liked him and my older brother and was alot nicer 9didnt try to kill them) then she was to us and he says he feels like crap for that. I say to him its not your fault she is ill she is crazy and he says it doesnt matter she tried to kill you and not me...his depression makes any type of conversation impossiable. You cant talk to him through his depression its to loud.
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Old Jan 05, 2009, 12:55 PM
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(((((((((((((( MINIME and brother ))))))))))))))
I agree with gimmeice, could you gently suggest that he looks for a therapist and that you will also support him. Sending you hugs, love and support
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Well, I'm sorry to hear that. I was wondering what would happen if you refused to see him unless he saw a therapist! But you don't have to listen to me. I was just wondering. I don't know him at all! I'm really sorry!

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I barely know him and I don think he would go to therapy.i want him to but he probably wont. He is very sweet, and has a lot of guilt about stuff. My mom liked him and my older brother and was alot nicer 9didnt try to kill them) then she was to us and he says he feels like crap for that. I say to him its not your fault she is ill she is crazy and he says it doesnt matter she tried to kill you and not me...his depression makes any type of conversation impossiable. You cant talk to him through his depression its to loud.
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Old Jan 06, 2009, 03:49 PM
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how about sending him a letter or email about suggestions for him getting help? you could even refer him to someone you know or see. i'd also tell him how much you love him and that you want mmore for him in his life.
hopefully he'll read the letter and think about it. this way you aren't caught in the crossfire when you're trying to chat with him. i'm sorry for you and your brother. i hope he gets professional help. it sounds like he really needs it. hugs to you.
oh and yes there's a condtion called light deprivation that can cause severe depression. i know because i have it. there are solutions for this too.
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Old Jan 06, 2009, 05:56 PM
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Your brother needs help and treatment in the form of therapy and medications too, this is pretty clear. But how do you open a channel with him?
I suggets to forget the "feel good bullxit", as he says. Don't say he is wrong, becaseu he is not wrong. When somebody says his life is crap, it's better say "yes, you're right. but since we'll be still here tomorrow morning, we should get organized, so you can suffer less. we/you really should, because what is bad can always get worse". It's not a matter of faking agreement to win trust, it is acknowledgment of a fact. If life is not crap in itself, HIS life surely is.
You may try to relate this way.

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Old Jan 07, 2009, 01:48 AM
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Your brother needs help and treatment in the form of therapy and medications too, this is pretty clear. But how do you open a channel with him?
I suggets to forget the "feel good bullxit", as he says. Don't say he is wrong, becaseu he is not wrong. When somebody says his life is crap, it's better say "yes, you're right. but since we'll be still here tomorrow morning, we should get organized, so you can suffer less. we/you really should, because what is bad can always get worse". It's not a matter of faking agreement to win trust, it is acknowledgment of a fact. If life is not crap in itself, HIS life surely is.
You may try to relate this way.

Good luck
I fully agree with this approach. I hate it when people try to disagree with me when I talk about my depression. If someone comes alongside me in my pain instead of trying to fix the pain, I can receive their offer of help a whole lot more readily.
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