[Crazydancinggirl87]

she made me feel like i was a small child an that i have a wild imagination that how could i possibly have thought i would call my multiple personalities alters as a little kid but i was an inntelligant little kid an could not have made it all up with the alters an even calling them alters

i do have alters and my very first therapist embraced them an asked questions of my alters to get a better understanding of me as a person an why i behave the way i do and also my dbt leader an co-leader of my group i go to believe me that i have alters an they both made an effort to help me an work with both my alters and me ( me telling them and they doing what i feel or they feel most helpful ) an both the leader an co-leader are therapists an co leader nurse an the other nurses aide ) so if that does not prove it then what else can get through to my currents therapists dump small head that i have alters

i honestly when i was small in the orphanage i created these personalities because i did not have anyone to turn to family or non family friends or not so i needed some form of relationship with something ,something i could put my feelings out to an wont be judged an to be able to get through all the hardships an loneliness and heartbreak with some sort of human sanity an contact . and i called all the personalities alters because they were real to me like a real person, in my mind alter in my mind then showed how different the personalities were from the real me an how alot of the times during dark moments in the orphanage my alters acted as me so the real me could go to a different place mentally to a place where things were better where i would have my bio family etc to have some hope in my hardships in my non existent childhood to be able to feel an get out of the place mentally ..

so how dare my therapist belittle me an make me feel like i must be insane an not really knew the meaning of alters as a child an now how ****ing dare she my alters want the current t to hurt to make her sorry for the pain that went deep to my core to force my current t to apologize an make the fuking hell sure that she wont do it to others and she reads up on it an how to be a good therapist .

but after i terminate with my current t i will be seeing my co leader from my dbt group as a t one who understands dissociation an such an willing to work with me and my alters.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by Crazydancinggirl87

she made me feel like i was a small child an that i have a wild imagination that how could i possibly have thought i would call my multiple personalities alters as a little kid but i was an inntelligant little kid an could not have made it all up with the alters an even calling them alters

i do have alters and my very first therapist embraced them an asked questions of my alters to get a better understanding of me as a person an why i behave the way i do and also my dbt leader an co-leader of my group i go to believe me that i have alters an they both made an effort to help me an work with both my alters and me ( me telling them and they doing what i feel or they feel most helpful ) an both the leader an co-leader are therapists an co leader nurse an the other nurses aide ) so if that does not prove it then what else can get through to my currents therapists dump small head that i have alters

i honestly when i was small in the orphanage i created these personalities because i did not have anyone to turn to family or non family friends or not so i needed some form of relationship with something ,something i could put my feelings out to an wont be judged an to be able to get through all the hardships an loneliness and heartbreak with some sort of human sanity an contact . and i called all the personalities alters because they were real to me like a real person, in my mind alter in my mind then showed how different the personalities were from the real me an how alot of the times during dark moments in the orphanage my alters acted as me so the real me could go to a different place mentally to a place where things were better where i would have my bio family etc to have some hope in my hardships in my non existent childhood to be able to feel an get out of the place mentally ..

so how dare my therapist belittle me an make me feel like i must be insane an not really knew the meaning of alters as a child an now how ****ing dare she my alters want the current t to hurt to make her sorry for the pain that went deep to my core to force my current t to apologize an make the fuking hell sure that she wont do it to others and she reads up on it an how to be a good therapist .

but after i terminate with my current t i will be seeing my co leader from my dbt group as a t one who understands dissociation an such an willing to work with me and my alters.

I know right now its upsetting for you to know a therapist doesn’t believe the type of insiders you have are alternate personalities that come with multiple personalities.

Your therapist might not believe you have multiple personalities type alters because there is a huge difference between the kind of alters that are willfully creating “alters” to help their self deal with the loneliness of not having a family, the loneliness of having no one to turn to, and “dark moments” of being in an orphanage, and those alters that are unconsciously created during extreme abuse because the child fears for their life.

In the mental health community here the kind of alters you created that are created willfully to help with loneliness and sad or dark times are more or less considered to be imaginary friends.

The diagnostic criteria for having DID (MPD) type alters states the alters cant be the kind that are created to be friends with the creator. The exact wording of the diagnostic criteria is “ Note: in children the symptoms are not attributed to imaginary playmates or other fantasy play” http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/did.htm

Your therapist probably has to go according to the legal diagnostic criteria, which is what most USA mental health agencies and mental health providers have to do.

Until you go through diagnostic testing and a psychiatrist meets with at least two of your alters and they fit all the diagnostic criteria for what alters with DID are your therapist may not be able to legally recognize you have DID type alters.

just like you have rules for conduct, work or school ethics you must live by so does your therapist.

here in the USA mental health providers cant - legally and ethically - say someone has alternate personalities that fit DID if the alters dont fit the diagnostic criteria.

In the eyes of the law for mental health providers she would not be doing her job correctly if she told you, yes you have alters that are the kind with DID when you havent displayed those kinds of alters.

she could actually lose her job and be accused of creating a false mental disorder with you and end up in a court case that could put her in prison for mentally harming you by creating a disorder in you that you may not fit the diagnostics for.

That said - All that really matters - now - is you did what you needed to do when you were a child in order to survive.

You now know how and why you created the kind of alters you have. Just like those with alters that meet the diagnostic criteria do in therapy for their alters, you can deal with all those problems, feelings of loneliness and hard times you had in the orphanage. you can now learn better coping mechanisms / tools that can help you function and be happy.

whether you have alters that fit the diagnostics for DID or not the therapy process is the same. you learn to face your problems, and take care of them, build new coping mechanisms and tools so that you can function like a normal person and have a happy life.

I know right now its heartbreaking that a therapist actually made you face the facts and I know its going to be hard letting go of the dream of having the DID type alters that you have had most of your life

but Its really a great thing that you now know what kind of alters you have, how they came to be and why. thats what all DID (MPD) people strive and work towards. I pass along lots of high fives to you.

now you can move on to the next phase that DID people have to do - learning to deal with all those discovered memories and feelings of the past and learning what you need for dealing with todays issues.

I'm sorry you felt belittled by your T I am glad you will be seeing someone who understands. It makes a BIG difference to have someone who understands.

[Crazydancinggirl87]

THEY ARE NOT PLAY MATES OR FANTASY i swear and its damn is not alll all fun an games with my alters(I CAN ****ING ASSURE EVERYONE THAT
i went through alot and i need not imaginary friends or fantasies what good would that do nothing , My first very first therapist did have me tested for multiple personalities and the psychiatrist there did meet two alters(my oldest an youngest alters had a convo with them even that i never knew what was said in it ) , so i am not lying or anything
if i needed imaginary friends i would have them but i dont have imaginary friends or fantasy.

Originally Posted by amandalouise

I know right now its upsetting for you to know a therapist doesn’t believe the type of insiders you have are alternate personalities that come with multiple personalities.

Your therapist might not believe you have multiple personalities type alters because there is a huge difference between the kind of alters that are willfully creating “alters” to help their self deal with the loneliness of not having a family, the loneliness of having no one to turn to, and “dark moments” of being in an orphanage, and those alters that are unconsciously created during extreme abuse because the child fears for their life.

In the mental health community here the kind of alters you created that are created willfully to help with loneliness and sad or dark times are more or less considered to be imaginary friends.

The diagnostic criteria for having DID (MPD) type alters states the alters cant be the kind that are created to be friends with the creator. The exact wording of the diagnostic criteria is “ Note: in children the symptoms are not attributed to imaginary playmates or other fantasy play” http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/did.htm

Your therapist probably has to go according to the legal diagnostic criteria, which is what most USA mental health agencies and mental health providers have to do.

Until you go through diagnostic testing and a psychiatrist meets with at least two of your alters and they fit all the diagnostic criteria for what alters with DID are your therapist may not be able to legally recognize you have DID type alters.

just like you have rules for conduct, work or school ethics you must live by so does your therapist.

here in the USA mental health providers cant - legally and ethically - say someone has alternate personalities that fit DID if the alters dont fit the diagnostic criteria.

In the eyes of the law for mental health providers she would not be doing her job correctly if she told you, yes you have alters that are the kind with DID when you havent displayed those kinds of alters.

she could actually lose her job and be accused of creating a false mental disorder with you and end up in a court case that could put her in prison for mentally harming you by creating a disorder in you that you may not fit the diagnostics for.

That said - All that really matters - now - is you did what you needed to do when you were a child in order to survive.

You now know how and why you created the kind of alters you have. Just like those with alters that meet the diagnostic criteria do in therapy for their alters, you can deal with all those problems, feelings of loneliness and hard times you had in the orphanage. you can now learn better coping mechanisms / tools that can help you function and be happy.

whether you have alters that fit the diagnostics for DID or not the therapy process is the same. you learn to face your problems, and take care of them, build new coping mechanisms and tools so that you can function like a normal person and have a happy life.

I know right now its heartbreaking that a therapist actually made you face the facts and I know its going to be hard letting go of the dream of having the DID type alters that you have had most of your life

but Its really a great thing that you now know what kind of alters you have, how they came to be and why. thats what all DID (MPD) people strive and work towards. I pass along lots of high fives to you.

now you can move on to the next phase that DID people have to do - learning to deal with all those discovered memories and feelings of the past and learning what you need for dealing with todays issues.

[Crazydancinggirl87]

what the **** would i need play mates or imaginary mates that does not do a thing and i sure as hell dont even believe in that stuff of imaginary friends

i need alters to get through things , by created them i meant by me being the host. my alters have a mind an personalities of there own i just know some parts of who they are because i am the host who controls them but at times they take over an i have no control at all when they want to do something sometimes.

.

Originally Posted by amandalouise

I know right now its upsetting for you to know a therapist doesn’t believe the type of insiders you have are alternate personalities that come with multiple personalities.

Your therapist might not believe you have multiple personalities type alters because there is a huge difference between the kind of alters that are willfully creating “alters” to help their self deal with the loneliness of not having a family, the loneliness of having no one to turn to, and “dark moments” of being in an orphanage, and those alters that are unconsciously created during extreme abuse because the child fears for their life.

In the mental health community here the kind of alters you created that are created willfully to help with loneliness and sad or dark times are more or less considered to be imaginary friends.

The diagnostic criteria for having DID (MPD) type alters states the alters cant be the kind that are created to be friends with the creator. The exact wording of the diagnostic criteria is “ Note: in children the symptoms are not attributed to imaginary playmates or other fantasy play” http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/did.htm

Your therapist probably has to go according to the legal diagnostic criteria, which is what most USA mental health agencies and mental health providers have to do.

Until you go through diagnostic testing and a psychiatrist meets with at least two of your alters and they fit all the diagnostic criteria for what alters with DID are your therapist may not be able to legally recognize you have DID type alters.

just like you have rules for conduct, work or school ethics you must live by so does your therapist.

here in the USA mental health providers cant - legally and ethically - say someone has alternate personalities that fit DID if the alters dont fit the diagnostic criteria.

In the eyes of the law for mental health providers she would not be doing her job correctly if she told you, yes you have alters that are the kind with DID when you havent displayed those kinds of alters.

she could actually lose her job and be accused of creating a false mental disorder with you and end up in a court case that could put her in prison for mentally harming you by creating a disorder in you that you may not fit the diagnostics for.

That said - All that really matters - now - is you did what you needed to do when you were a child in order to survive.

You now know how and why you created the kind of alters you have. Just like those with alters that meet the diagnostic criteria do in therapy for their alters, you can deal with all those problems, feelings of loneliness and hard times you had in the orphanage. you can now learn better coping mechanisms / tools that can help you function and be happy.

whether you have alters that fit the diagnostics for DID or not the therapy process is the same. you learn to face your problems, and take care of them, build new coping mechanisms and tools so that you can function like a normal person and have a happy life.

I know right now its heartbreaking that a therapist actually made you face the facts and I know its going to be hard letting go of the dream of having the DID type alters that you have had most of your life

but Its really a great thing that you now know what kind of alters you have, how they came to be and why. thats what all DID (MPD) people strive and work towards. I pass along lots of high fives to you.

now you can move on to the next phase that DID people have to do - learning to deal with all those discovered memories and feelings of the past and learning what you need for dealing with todays issues.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by Crazydancinggirl87

what the **** would i need play mates or imaginary mates that does not do a thing and i sure as hell dont even believe in that stuff of imaginary friends

i need alters to get through things , by created them i meant by me being the host. my alters have a mind an personalities of there own i just know some parts of who they are because i am the host who controls them but at times they take over an i have no control at all when they want to do something sometimes.

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Im sorry I upset you. And yes I know what Im talking about. I had DID myself and am now an integrated person, I also work in the mental health field so I do know about having to make that hard decision about what kind of alters my clients have and what the diagnostics say about what kind of alters there are with all the different disorders.

You say you were diagnosed some time ago with your first therapist/psychiatrist. ok so you have nothing to lose do you. and you know whats what.

so again the therapy process is the same regardless of what kind of alters a person has.

now you know how and why your alters were created and remember having those feelings and dark times. so now you the aware self can learn how to deal with them and learn how to cope in the present.

in one of your posts you asked what else can you do.. you can also have another psych eval done so that the updated results can reflect what alters with DID are by todays standards. with todays standards on your files mental health providers in the usa have to go according to that.

good luck to you. you have come this far you can continue to heal on the same therapy program regardless of diagnosis and therapists opinions so go for it and Im pulling for you.

[Hunny]

((((Dancing))))

You are cared for...

Hopefully you can be comforted...can you print this thread out and take it with you?

Just a suggestion...

Remember lots of safe

[Porcelain_doll_2004]

Thinking of you

[Crazydancinggirl87]

my dbt t is working really well with me and my alters and is asking questions about the alters and how they are and whats going on to make them act a certain way etc
she will say my host name along with what i need to do Like (((Name,focus) and she knows the dominate sides of my alters and seems like very capable of knowing when im out or when an alter is out

[darpsych]

I believe your first message was one of your alters/littles

[Crazydancinggirl87]

first message of this thread or what?

Originally Posted by darpsych

I believe your first message was one of your alters/littles