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Old Dec 08, 2011, 05:04 PM
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I have a rage-full alter that I have had all my life. He is to the right of me and will move forward when he feels needed. But he doesn't talk. He reacts. I have an angry alter who will talk but once I have gone past the anger than my rage alter steps forward. I am sometimes unsure that I will remain if I allow him to take over completely. So I will leave if I think he is getting the better of me. It does comfort me to know that he is there and I know he is there to protect me. Is it common to have alters that don't speak? That just react.
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Old Dec 09, 2011, 04:43 PM
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Claritytoo...I say that i have a similar issue with one of my alters not wanting to speak due to anger and fear...it's as though she is paralyzed from talking...so what i do is have her write and she can usually write about what's going on in our head and then she is ok to talk after she has sorted everything out in our head...i hope this helps a little bit...I know that it is common for me to have that experience quite often...just sayin...feel free to write me anytime!!!with love!!! <3
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Old Dec 10, 2011, 01:42 PM
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I have an alter or many alters like this. Who are mute. Some of them can write. Some of them have nothing to say at all, except to me. My rageful alter is mute, just like you described. He sure talks a lot to the system, but he doesn't speak outside of him. I actually am starting to learn that many of my alters don't speak, but love to write. I have maybe a handful who do all the speaking. Some of them will only speak in front of certain trustworthy people.

It has happened, but few and far inbetween where a mute alter is present and will not talk to people. Can't talk to people and nobody takes over for her. It happens a lot in more stressful situations and it happened in therapy once. I wasted the entire session not talking, begging myself to, but not doing it. No matter what she did to try to coax me to talk I couldn't do it. I shouted and shouted at her "speak! what are you doing!? SPEAK".
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Old Dec 10, 2011, 03:47 PM
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I have a rage-full alter that I have had all my life. He is to the right of me and will move forward when he feels needed. But he doesn't talk. He reacts. I have an angry alter who will talk but once I have gone past the anger than my rage alter steps forward. I am sometimes unsure that I will remain if I allow him to take over completely. So I will leave if I think he is getting the better of me. It does comfort me to know that he is there and I know he is there to protect me. Is it common to have alters that don't speak? That just react.
Thank you so much for mentioning an alter that is beside you. I am trying to figure out if I am DID or not. Not that it should matter. Or it should. Whatever.

My Dawny is SOMETIMES to the right of me. Once I felt her move into my body.

Anything similar anyone?

I also am feeling like I have to "guard" everyone when with t.

Could be psychosis, don't know. Anyway when alone, we can relax and just be, most of the time, till the questions come up.

Birth name person is sleeping. Fetal position to the left in a sac. SEEMS to be getting younger and younger.

Sounds nuts.
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Old Dec 10, 2011, 06:26 PM
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No hermeand...does not sound nuts to me...sometimes I can feel one of them touch me especially when they know i am super upset...and disregulated...i know to me it doesn't sound nuts at all...i feel them go through me sometime...i feel them shifting as i am working on things with T...but at the same time...the only time they feel remotely safe coming out is when i am either with someone i know who cares...or understands...which is few and far between it seems...or with my T...they all feel safe coming out and "showing themselves" so to speak...usually around those times...so i want to reiterate that you are so not nuts!!!I do understand what you are going through!!!
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Old Dec 10, 2011, 06:59 PM
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I have been trying to figure out what my relationship is with my alters. They don't speak to me. My anger never speaks, or writes or does anything but be there in case I need him. As I read about everyones experiences with their alters I am beginning to believe that I am an alter. that me is inside protected but also not living life. thinking of this causes me to feel fear. But I am not sure if I am afraid that I am right or wrong. I feel like a greeter at kmart. I appear the way I need to in any given situation. I am not sure who is me. And who is an alter.
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Old Dec 12, 2011, 12:33 AM
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When an alter doesn't speak it could mean many different things.

Like maybe he or she can't talk. We have several that are unable to talk. Maybe they are extremely afraid. Maybe they don't trust the other parts.

When that alter is ready to talk they will. Maybe when he/she feels like they are safe enough. Maybe they won't speak because other parts may be hurting the body.

I have been in treatment a long time and I have learned that things and parts will talk and things will happen when your system or body either wants or can happen. Don't worry about it, things will come out when they can. Maybe someone else needs to come out first.

What does your T say about it?

I wish that alter safe love, and I wish your system healing to continue.
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Old Dec 12, 2011, 08:01 PM
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We have several that don't speak. Two of them (a 3 yr old and an 8 yr old) were so traumatized that they just can't seem to make words come out. A couple are too young.
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Claritytoo, different parts of us may have different physical conditions - including different allergies! Muteness can be one, physical less-ability can be another. One of mine (the very bitter one) can't move - at all. Not even a finger.
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Old Dec 20, 2011, 05:56 PM
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Claritytoo, different parts of us may have different physical conditions - including different allergies! Muteness can be one, physical less-ability can be another. One of mine (the very bitter one) can't move - at all. Not even a finger.
It feels like he is only there to act. I have anger that talks. I never thought that maybe that is just the way he is. That maybe he does not intend to talk. That maybe he lets other do the talking, It gives me another way of seeing him. Thanks
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When an alter doesn't speak it could mean many different things.

Like maybe he or she can't talk. We have several that are unable to talk. Maybe they are extremely afraid. Maybe they don't trust the other parts.

When that alter is ready to talk they will. Maybe when he/she feels like they are safe enough. Maybe they won't speak because other parts may be hurting the body.

I have been in treatment a long time and I have learned that things and parts will talk and things will happen when your system or body either wants or can happen. Don't worry about it, things will come out when they can. Maybe someone else needs to come out first.

What does your T say about it?

I wish that alter safe love, and I wish your system healing to continue.
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I know I have talked about this with my therapist but I don't remember what was said. I will ask her again. Thanks
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Old Dec 21, 2011, 02:37 AM
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I have an alter who is mute/blind. She is very young and seems to hold all within her. Maybe yours are holding on to painful memories? Crew is right...it will happen when the time is right.
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Old Dec 28, 2011, 01:29 PM
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lilly doesnt talk sometimes either and god im scared to go see a doctor about this what if they dont believe me and so on (
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Old Dec 28, 2011, 02:01 PM
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lilly doesnt talk sometimes either and god im scared to go see a doctor about this what if they dont believe me and so on (
I went to a psychologist, therapist and now I am back with another psychologist. Dr's all Dr's are like shoes sometimes they don't fit so you have keep looking till you find one who fits. I am not saying one that accepts everything I say as fact. But one who is willing to listen and take the time to think about what I have said. The Dr I have now listens we don't always agree but she will hear me out. And sometimes after my session I realize she had a good point. It took a while for me to get used to her and I think for her to understand me. But right now she is a good fit. It was difficult changing Dr's but it would have been wasted time to have stayed with the ones that didn't fit.
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((((Claritytoo))))

Thank you for posting. It took a long time for some of those inside to talk, write, reach out, or even be known they were there. Even to myself. Many times just like for us it takes them time to trust, to check things out and know it is safe, to get to a place where they want to or can talk, and maybe they will not. It does not mean anything is wrong.

As you walk through this healing and facing things, when you are ready and your mind is ready if they are going to talk they will. Often times those within myself would speak but I had no idea they were even there at first or that they had written or anything. People would tell me that I did something or said something, or knew me that I had not seen or known before.

For us, I have always been afraid of anger and it was not allowed, and the ones inside that carried the anger hid for a long time until it was safe for that part of myself to step up. It has always been there and probably even stepped up at times I did not even know, but now that part has talked and written but it took them a long time to be able to do that. And still they do not always say or write anything.

Knowing that part of you is there is a start and is there a chance that he speaks when you step back and are unaware? If that part takes over is there a chance that they have spoken and does so when it is needed as that was what they were for?

I know that when I lose time I do not know what is done, said, or written. There was a time I had no idea and did not find out for a couple years that one was writing and talking because I left. Fear a lot of times can stop one from talking, writing, or even being known.

I do not think it means anything is wrong if they do not talk neccessarily. Often times trying to figure it all out before it is time creates more stress and lost feelings. I do validate how you feel because I too have had many questions and no understanding. But I have found that when it is time and I am ready answers do come.

Allow yourself that time and trust yourself. I know that I have learned to trust my system and to listen to them. There have been a million questions and what I have found out is that those questions have answers that come and begin to make sense when my mind and self are ready to know and hear them.

Keep posting and know that you are not alone. We do care and are here for you. Hugs and loving thoughts.

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