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Old Feb 14, 2015, 01:50 AM
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I'm new here. Just really need an answer that I cannot find by myself anywhere on the internet, except for to say that it's popossible. If anyone would be kind enough to help me I would really really appreciate it. Thank you.

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Old Feb 14, 2015, 11:08 AM
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I'm new here. Just really need an answer that I cannot find by myself anywhere on the internet, except for to say that it's popossible. If anyone would be kind enough to help me I would really really appreciate it. Thank you.
Im sorry but sick with a fever means you need a medical doctor. we dont diagnose and treat each others illnesses here.
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Old Feb 14, 2015, 03:37 PM
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So sorry, I guess I worded my question wrong. I'm not asking what to do about the fever, so much as how to begin going about helping her. I afraid to take her to the doctor's office and I'm not sick, well as least for very long, after I come back. I've never had this situation before. Until yesterday, I didn't even know our was possible for one to be sick and not another. How does that even work his can we have different temperatures? Anyway,I'm not asking for a diagnosis,just a methodology. Thank you.
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Old Feb 14, 2015, 06:16 PM
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So sorry, I guess I worded my question wrong. I'm not asking what to do about the fever, so much as how to begin going about helping her. I afraid to take her to the doctor's office and I'm not sick, well as least for very long, after I come back. I've never had this situation before. Until yesterday, I didn't even know our was possible for one to be sick and not another. How does that even work his can we have different temperatures? Anyway,I'm not asking for a diagnosis,just a methodology. Thank you.
...in general ....alters and hosts (the body in which the alter reside) do not have different temperatures this is because they all share the same physical body. temperature is a physical number on a thermometer that is designating the heat or coldness of the physical body. you cant take an alters temp because the alter is a mental state of mind....the dissociated state of mind....

if a fever is noted whether or not its during aware state of mind or during dissociated state of mind that temp is what is going on in the physical body...the physical body has a cold or flu or other physical health problems. for physical health problems regardless of altered state of mind or aware state of mind a medical doctor is needed.

that said on extremely rare cases an alter holds the memory of having a fever or broken bones, sprains, bruising...that happened during the traumatic events that caused them to come into being. its their job, purpose reason for being to hold those traumatic memories....but in these rare cases the mental gets converted into physical symptoms (the psychological term and diagnosis for when mental problems show in physical ways is conversion disorder)

what to do about it, well conversion disorders here in NY are treated the same way that the mental and physical problem is treated

example if a dissociative problem was causing the physical symptom of a fever the treatment is treat the fever (see a medical doctor) and also the same thing you do for any other dissociative disordered problems...grounding, work in therapy around why that traumatic event got dissociated into an alternate personality, .....

for some people it helps to develop co consciousness and communication so that the alter can tell you what they need....

some people that are able to develop communication, co consciousness buy their alters the toys and blankets that alter wants to hold onto when remembering the hard stuff....

each one of my alters had their own jobs, purposes reasons for being so how to help them depended upon that. for example rainy was my sad depressed alter, she liked blankets, pillows and stuffed animals so thats what I made sure I had placed in her favorite spot in the house.

only you , your treatment providers and this alter who remembers having the fever can tell you what they need and how to help them.
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I guess the divide between body and mind is not as strict as most people think?

I remember watching this documentary on a young woman who was very low vision. She also had albinism, which often causes eye issues. She basically had to live like a blind person. And it was proven that she actually did not have very good eyesight. Still she had a part that could see, maybe not to a perfection, but she was definitely not legally blind.

So I will somehow assume that parts can have different physical conditions. It doesn't really help much how it happens, but if a little one has a fever and the big one does not, that is real. I think maybe our bodies are much more sensitive to our minds than we can ever imagine. I mean, afterall, we "are" our bodies too, our brains are quite physical, and the divide between mind and body might be quite unreal, even if that thought usually upsets people.
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Old Feb 15, 2015, 02:47 AM
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Thanks for the response, any idea what I can actually do to help her?
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Old Feb 15, 2015, 03:49 AM
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Thanks jimi

LisaNobodyyouknow - at least go to urgent care and have some blood work done to rule out major and basic things.. Have them check her out

Now my personal experience with fever that turned out to be more brain tealt than physical....I started getting help for first time past year for my childhood...I thought this low-grade fever was side effect of medicine. Psychiatrist had me stop medicine,and ran blood work. Nothing. Went to Urgent Care. Many more test ordered (never had so many blood test run...) - they also specialize in travel and I've been to several countries. All test clear. Then referred to Infectious Disease Doctor. More exams and test. Told it's not infectious disease.

Then fever broke (and it only appeared certain times of day..) I asked psychiatrist about Psychogenic Fever. She said based on pattern of fever, and all the test to rule out physical issues that made sense. That some people's minds react by making them nausea, headaches, sweat....that under this stress my mind was doing same with body temperature.


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Old Feb 15, 2015, 04:13 AM
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I appreciate your help and would like to thank you fir your time. I'm just not understanding how I could drive to urgent care or the er, fill out paperwork and then start acting like a 6 year old and not either get kicked out or end up admitted to the mental health ward. I mean how do I exactly do that? My temperature is 97.9 and hers is 100.2 how that's possible I really don't understand. All I know is she is sick. She won't eat and doesn't want even to play. I was told that a fever isn't that buy of a deal if it's under 102 so she should just get fluids and sleep it off. The problem is she'll go to sleep for only a few minutes and then I'm here. I was also told that she's the strongest one iinside and the weakest one outside. I don't know if it matters but she's the one in charge. I don't know if that's why I come back when she sleeps. I really don't know how any our this works. I'm still baffled at how it's possible that she's sick and I'm not, but that our temperatures are actually different. I tried it three times. Also, right when I come back I feel nauseated and crappy myself, but it only lasts a few minutes. I'm also wondering say I did want to give her something for her fever would I be able to take it or does she have to and if so am I taking an adult dose, a child dose, or does it go by body weight. Really confused.
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Old Feb 15, 2015, 04:25 AM
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Also, since this site requires a certain amount of posts, how did she even get sick? I'm always the one that's out. The only time she's even between around anyone was I baby sat for someone's daughter so she could come out and have a friend to play with but that was almost a week ago. I scoured the internet trying to get answers and all I've been able to come up with is a few sites that mention oh what a neat medical mystery it is with absolutely no useful information. I have read that littles are actually kinda normal in all this so I was hoping someone else who has had similar issues or knows where there's information would send me a link or something. All the not useful information on the internet and absolutely nothing (that I can find) about dosage for a little or even how to go about it.
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Old Feb 15, 2015, 09:20 AM
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I'm not a doctor but if this is a more minor illness you can probably treat it yourself, and yea at least starting at a low dosage isn't a bad idea, at least that can be changed and upped if not working but if you start on a higher dosage and get side effects that med effect has to wear off. If it gets worse or lingers I don't think it is wrong to contact a doctor even if the symptoms are not there all the time.

I don't have DID but I can still delay illness if really needed. If I felt ill but some tasks needed to be done, I've been able to put off the illness for a few days. The mind can be quite strong.
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Old Feb 15, 2015, 09:36 AM
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Hello LisaNobodyyouknow, the child could be reading the temperature wrong, this can happen. This could be that she was very ill at some point. Please go and see your doctor, explain how you are seeing it. I can understand your confusion, as different alters see things very differently.
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Old Feb 15, 2015, 11:54 AM
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Hi LisaNobodyYouKnow,

This kind of situation can be quite confusing at times, no? I'm sorry you are going through this.

I have seen with a friend that she does have some littles inside that can become ill and she (the host) is not ill. I've also seen that when the host is ill, there may be littles that feel ill and some who do not.

It's possible that the little who is feeling ill may be because of a memory they hold and there was some kind of trigger, either externally or internally to bring on that illness.

What I have found with my friend is that if she does some self care directed towards the little who is feeling ill, it seems to help. Getting plenty of fluids, helping him/her to rest and take it easy and sometimes even just validating that the little feels ill can help them. Maybe doing some coloring or other low key activity can help them. Cuddling up with a favorite stuffy or blanket and watching a movie that the little would enjoy can be a great help as well.

I hope this has helped.
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Attributes of different alters/parts can be very diverse. It is possible for different parts to have different medical conditions. Have you worked on this with your therapist?
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Old Feb 15, 2015, 09:49 PM
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Uh, I don't have a therapist, if I did I would of asked them, and I would have a much better grasp of exactly is going on. I would hope anyway. She has never been sick before. Does anyone have any idea how she could stay here while she sleeps so she can at least rest. She falls asleep and a few minutes later I'm back here. Also, I don't know if it's relevant but it's just her and I, it's been that way for about 2 1/2 years. Like I said she's never been sick before. I've take temperatures again and there the almost the same. I took pictures of the thermometer and pm'd a friend and had them tell me what they said to make sure of what I thought I saw because I mean I'm still not compretending how any of this is possible. I'm sure she's thinking I'm crazy, but clearly I am so whatever.
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