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Dec 18, 2015, 09:01 AM
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Learning that, while describing a system is helpful, getting locked into a single conception of how it functions can impede healing. Learning that my parts, like people on the outside, can learn and grow. Which means they can heal and help each other heal. This is big. I knew it for awhile. But got it in a new deeper way. The sad parts can become happy. The mean parts can become neutral or even kind. This is possible!!
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Dec 18, 2015, 01:16 PM
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Dec 18, 2015, 03:03 PM
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yes each persons system is comprised in what ever ways that persons mind needed in order to survive. that means for some people they may have one or more alters in the system who's job, purpose, reasons for being is to learn and grow in order to appear to be normal and not draw attention to the secrets and such,
that said there is set diagnostic criteria here in america for what is a dissociative type alter, how much control they have, what they can do. you can read the actual wording in my link at the bottom of my post. but the short version of all that long winded psychological wording in my link is that each alter has their own sense of agency, sense of self, their own affect, behavior, consciousness, memory, cognition, and sometimes sensory motor functioning that causes discontinuity for the one in which they reside. example even though Rainy may have been able to learn to be happy sometimes she was still who she was...the embodiment of my sadness, sad memories, everything about her was depression crying and suicidal, she held my sad\depressed memories and traumas related to sad\depressive events. why because thats what her job, purpose and reason for being created was. |
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Dec 19, 2015, 08:03 AM
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I'm not saying the alters change who they are. They are still very much specific parts with preferences and names and habits and jobs to do. But they seem to be learning new skills now that we're out of crisis. In situations of crisis and perceived threat, it's business as usual. When things calm down, there is more room inside for other ways of being.
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Dec 19, 2015, 09:26 AM
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I'm not sure if this is the same in thought as your is, but in regard to us, but I do think that some mature, age, gain experience and/or grow up dependant on how much they present to experience life and are conscious of everyday living.
As they gain these life experiences and learn additional coping skills, the switching process seems to slow down. Being that we just hit a flip side of ourselves, a whole new us, we are having to start over which can explain the constant switching again. |
| Anonymous37827, flockpride
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Dec 20, 2015, 08:48 AM
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Casey, can I climb in your cupboard with you? We can sit there and try to figure out what's wrong and how to fix it?
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| Anonymous37827
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Dec 20, 2015, 08:11 PM
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Yes, parts of me have started to change. I can't explain exactly how that happened, but I think it might have to do with the thousands of pages of journaling (letting each part say what they want to say), Hours upon hours of therapy, learning to ground myself, seeking to understand the parts and their roles and letting bigs take some of the stuff that the littles were doing. Lots of imagining interactions. Lots of patience with self.
And in the middle of doing all that, melting down pretty frequently. Who knows, maybe the meltdowns were all part of it too? But little Marie no longer has to take all of the bad feelings. She still feels bad (make no mistake there) but she doesn't carry the whole load for the whole system. It used to be like a funnel where any feelings of insecurity, abandonment, rejection just funneled right to her. Poor little thing. She still sleeps with teddy bear from t1, still cries easily, still pops up at moments when she could stay in back. I guess what I am trying to say is that she is not as miserable as she used to be. |
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Dec 20, 2015, 10:48 PM
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So my system the female Alters care for and protect the young male Alters. The male's are stuck at there abuse age and really pissed that they have not grown as the female's have and me.However they do feel like they are healing through outside help and we always try to stay positive.
For me it's like Jenga were building and building then one of the young Alters puts on a block..... And it all comes crashing down BOOOM!!! HA! Start Over. 
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Dec 21, 2015, 11:24 AM
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Is it odd my alters all feel like they are female? I've never really asked them, and I've always just assumed they were.. I'm not sure I could handle a boy being in there... In some respects I don't want to know if there are any...
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Dec 21, 2015, 12:26 PM
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Our system has females, males, non-gendered, plus an android. There are more females than anything and do most of the higher thinking even though a few males are smart. Most of the males are drones and are camouflage.
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Dec 21, 2015, 03:33 PM
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Dec 21, 2015, 11:09 PM
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Dec 22, 2015, 05:57 AM
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Just throwing this out there... If our minds created what we needed, wouldn't we have created someone strong? To me that would have been a male.... Tho knowing what males were capable of... I dunno, just seems weird... Maybe it's because I was always a tough girl I decided that was all that was needed?
I know the little one is a girl, I know the angry one is a girl.. I'm not sure on what the rest are, I can't get a feel for them... So I just assumed... And then yesterday I hit the denial stage again.. They aren't real, they are a coping mechanism... I go back and forth with this all the time.. Some days it's like yeah.. Ok... T's right... No... She's crazy... Not me... Ugh... |
| Anonymous37827
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Dec 22, 2015, 08:31 AM
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Others are coping skills, they emerged to cope with situations an other couldn't handle. This is why I'm poly-fragmented- I have hundreds of others...I lived under oppression for the first 18 years of life and hardly developed any social and life skills. I needed a handful of others just to go to the store and deal with life on the way. I was quite withdrawn, a recluse, and scared of human contact. It would of been awesome if my ideal other would of emerged to run our life and all I had to do was sleep. But....the mind is broken up into bits and pieces (dissociated) and every other that presents is lacking to being the complete individual. A memory is made of parts and are stored in different parts of the brain like emotional memory, visual memory, hearing, touching, etc.... It's these parts of a memory that others emerge from...the learned coping skill. This is why alters only know a part of a memory while an other part only knows another part of the same memory...or not at all. The brain is dissociated. An associated brain puts all these parts together to form a complete whole memory equipped with sight, sound, emotion, feeling, and whatever else it's like...I don't know. My memory is one dimensional, dreamlike, and contain flashbacks (parts of others incomplete memories) that they share. All we others got a taste of the abuse that we others have others. :/ I remember others ready to stand ground but end up pulverized.  Yes, I have others that are in denial, too, but that's because they aren't co-conscious enough and can't feel it.
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