[scar12346]

Literally.. Scarlet has been diagnosed bipolar with psychotic symptoms, and we are all tired of her telling herself that we are her "psychotic self".. I mean, she is a personality as well, why are we the ones who have to go through and keep her sure that she is the main? "Just, get used to it, play along" Carolinae would say, and I get it, they are used to my anger issues, and we have to live with Carolinae's blindness, and Vladimir's boy crazy phase.. but that's getting annoying. Sometimes she knows that it is DID, and that she is just like us, and we are all EQUAL, but other times she think she is the boss, and I am not happy. If anyone has to be the boss that should be Eve, just because she is a mute doesn't mean that she can't control us right?

How do we deal with that..btw, medication does not work on us because it would work for her but as soon as someone goes out the side effects hit, we just tell her that she cannot be prescribed medication because of law..

we're sorry you're going through this.

((((hugs)))))

[OliverB]

I understand, I have a psychotic one. Schizophrenia positive symptoms affect only him and negative Oners affect everybody. Meds are not an optiom

(((Scar)))

I wish that I can help at least some ...this condition gets so weird at times.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by scar12346

Literally.. Scarlet has been diagnosed bipolar with psychotic symptoms, and we are all tired of her telling herself that we are her "psychotic self".. I mean, she is a personality as well, why are we the ones who have to go through and keep her sure that she is the main? "Just, get used to it, play along" Carolinae would say, and I get it, they are used to my anger issues, and we have to live with Carolinae's blindness, and Vladimir's boy crazy phase.. but that's getting annoying. Sometimes she knows that it is DID, and that she is just like us, and we are all EQUAL, but other times she think she is the boss, and I am not happy. If anyone has to be the boss that should be Eve, just because she is a mute doesn't mean that she can't control us right?

How do we deal with that..btw, medication does not work on us because it would work for her but as soon as someone goes out the side effects hit, we just tell her that she cannot be prescribed medication because of law..

here's a thought that might help... maybe her sense of agency (job, purpose, reason for being created, how much control she has and all that kinds of stuff) is to be the denial factor. and maybe being psychotic is just part of who and what she is (sense of agency stuff)

my suggestion is just continue being you and let her continue to be who and what she is... kind of like a friend of yours that you visit and go see and do things with you would not ask them to change who they were right, you wouldnt expect your friends who do not reside with you to be the same as you inside and out. well this psychotic alter is not going to be the same as you, they are going to be different just like people are different and not the same.

what it boils down to is everyone can only control their selves, and be their selves so the same with alters, maybe accepting that this is who and what she is and you are different and you cant change who and what she is, just go on with your life how and who you are and how and who you always have done. this might take some of the stress of you. so what she thinks you all are the alters and she is the biological human, doesnt change anything you all are who you have always been. someday when the time is right she will figure things out on her own if thats part of who and what she is.

[scar12346]

Originally Posted by amandalouise

here's a thought that might help... maybe her sense of agency (job, purpose, reason for being created, how much control she has and all that kinds of stuff) is to be the denial factor. and maybe being psychotic is just part of who and what she is (sense of agency stuff)

my suggestion is just continue being you and let her continue to be who and what she is... kind of like a friend of yours that you visit and go see and do things with you would not ask them to change who they were right, you wouldnt expect your friends who do not reside with you to be the same as you inside and out. well this psychotic alter is not going to be the same as you, they are going to be different just like people are different and not the same.

what it boils down to is everyone can only control their selves, and be their selves so the same with alters, maybe accepting that this is who and what she is and you are different and you cant change who and what she is, just go on with your life how and who you are and how and who you always have done. this might take some of the stress of you. so what she thinks you all are the alters and she is the biological human, doesnt change anything you all are who you have always been. someday when the time is right she will figure things out on her own if thats part of who and what she is.

We usually don't mind it on most of the days, but when she falls into depression and becomes completely unresponsive to us, there isn't anyone who can help her, because she closes down for everyone.. We've had very close calls when she falls into deep depression and it worries us, because by closing herself down she is moving us aside and if something horrible happens it will happen to all of us. If she does something out of the sort like suicide she will hurt all of us, a lot of the psychologists we've seen think that DID is like the lives of a cat, which is absurd because those people have a degree, but they do not take the risk seriously so we are left to deal on our own..We usually used Waidth's power to push her back until she comes to her senses, but she is stronger than him so that is not working.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by scar12346

We usually don't mind it on most of the days, but when she falls into depression and becomes completely unresponsive to us, there isn't anyone who can help her, because she closes down for everyone.. We've had very close calls when she falls into deep depression and it worries us, because by closing herself down she is moving us aside and if something horrible happens it will happen to all of us. If she does something out of the sort like suicide she will hurt all of us, a lot of the psychologists we've seen think that DID is like the lives of a cat, which is absurd because those people have a degree, but they do not take the risk seriously so we are left to deal on our own..We usually used Waidth's power to push her back until she comes to her senses, but she is stronger than him so that is not working.

maybe you can ask inside to see who if anyone has had the job, purpose reasons for being created all these years to prevent the actual suicide attempts...

short version with DID each persons system is set up in what ever ways they needed in order to survive. that means in systems where suicide is a part of life so is an alter that will prevent it from happening. maybe you can locate the one who has been handling these suicide attempts since very early childhood. maybe you can ask them to continue to do their job, purpose reason for being created and ask them if there is a way that you can help ease their burden of watching for and preventing suicide/ death of everyone.

example I had an alter who's job it was to self injure and suicide. there was no changing this because thats who and what that alter was, it was their sense of agency. but another alter would since before our body age of 5 take control to ensure our survival from abuse, self injury and suicide.

since you seem to be aware of what goes on with other alters maybe you can locate this alter. (the protector alter)

[scar12346]

Originally Posted by amandalouise

maybe you can ask inside to see who if anyone has had the job, purpose reasons for being created all these years to prevent the actual suicide attempts...

short version with DID each persons system is set up in what ever ways they needed in order to survive. that means in systems where suicide is a part of life so is an alter that will prevent it from happening. maybe you can locate the one who has been handling these suicide attempts since very early childhood. maybe you can ask them to continue to do their job, purpose reason for being created and ask them if there is a way that you can help ease their burden of watching for and preventing suicide/ death of everyone.

example I had an alter who's job it was to self injure and suicide. there was no changing this because thats who and what that alter was, it was their sense of agency. but another alter would since before our body age of 5 take control to ensure our survival from abuse, self injury and suicide.

since you seem to be aware of what goes on with other alters maybe you can locate this alter. (the protector alter)

Well that was usually the job of Eve, because she was brutally honest, but she stopped talking. She used to be a selective mute, not she does not communicate at all. Vladimir sometimes does the trick since he is her age and those two can really talk, same with me, but she blocks us out completely now. Waidth can get only partial physical control, to hold her down if anythings really bad starts happening, but other than that the whole system just doesn't function correctly anymore.. we used to be a well oiled machine and now that Eve isn't talking and in emotional control anymore we are lost sheep..