[Patchwokg1rl]

I have a friend that claims to be the reincarnation of Harley Quinn, who she can summon at will, but who also comes through at random times. Is it possible that she has DID or is she just trying to mess with me?

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by Patchwokg1rl

I have a friend that claims to be the reincarnation of Harley Quinn, who she can summon at will, but who also comes through at random times. Is it possible that she has DID or is she just trying to mess with me?

depends on your location.. here in america religious stuff is ruled out for DID. reincarnation would not be DID.

that said there is such a thing as dual diagnosis. this is when a person has more than one problem. for example I have a friend that firmly believes their body born person (name on the birth certificate and person they were before they became DID) was reincarnated from the salem witch trials.

but due to extreme trauma her mind dissociated into having dissociative type alternate personalities.

the result is the body person (the one the alters reside with in) is a reincarnation but the alters are not and the alters were not created through reincarnation, they were created under extreme abuse of the body person before the age of 5.

So you see this is a very complicated question... being DID and reincarnated can happen but theres alot more involved in this then just reincarnation and DID, theres more elements then what I posted here that treatment providers look at simply because reincarnation is a religious belief so it has to be ruled out of the DID side of things... very complicated for my friend when she was being diagnosed.

[Solnutty]

I have no idea. Possibly an introject. That's intriguing.

Originally Posted by Patchwokg1rl

I have a friend that claims to be the reincarnation of Harley Quinn, who she can summon at will, but who also comes through at random times. Is it possible that she has DID or is she just trying to mess with me?

That's a hard call...we have Others that emerge that mimic another person, character, or personna...

But they don't claim to be the actual person....like in the mental hospital, we met a walker that had her own walk....and it wasn't long before we were mimicking her....felt more like an imaginary twin of her...had to say stop and shake it off...

But not saying that it couldn't happen...I just don't know.

With this condition...anythings possible it seems.

[dlantern]

Is this more of the fear of being copied? Has the friend been validating to you? I would make sure I explain that this is a journey on about how folks got to be. It is a about pain perspective what that means the subjective experience, what were the manifestations, what is life like now rehabilitation what would have happened had this not happen re remembering, fine tuning ourselves. I think you have to make sure that alters involved aren't triggered to the point of invalidating plenty of folks sow their roll oaks or get into mid life crisis have lost their way lost their sense of identity. If you are triggered though you are triggered just be ready with a neat come back on why, what is all happening and if a good friend they will understand. I would possibly ask for a switch from an alter that has yet to understand and apparent normal I'm just along for the journey.

Yes, introject fictional characters can be their some of their life if they on television doing interviews depending on how they got here. If dead they once had life sometimes that is about asking inside what got you here was it a way of being on the movie and one liner depending on if a fragment etc.

Hopefully us as survivors are not out to get fictional characters on social media there is enough perspective to know this happens to some systems. They aren't out to get you all or seeking to control you unless you know someone famous meeting them in person.

[Gr3tta_0]

Just my personal opinion, with very little info - this sounds like bs.
Could be a delusion, could be real things, but based just on the claim alone, i would not personally believe this.
I would probably not argue, just say okay. See what happens if the person gets zero response from me.

[Amyjay]

it sounds like bs to me too.

[amandalouise]

here is where you can find more information on reincarnation...
http://www.aboutreincarnation.org/index.php/

how a friend explained her DID and reincarnation...

she was not delusional, hallucinating or otherwise. she underwent a therapy technique with her psychiatrist. the technique was called Hypnosis.

short version she was witness to a horrific crime and as part of the court case on this she was court ordered to undergo hypnosis to see if any new details would come to light. At this point it was clear to everyone that she was DID and that due to the dissociation she could not recount details of the crime. in rare cases hypnosis is used to calm and relax the body and mind which makes it easier for some to tell details with out being triggered into their dissociative responses.

this was not a situation of go back in time way back in time made up for tv movies kinds of stuff. this was deep relaxation with the goal of confirming or ruling out already known aspects of the crime.

this was also not just a treatment provider and their client. my friend said there were lawyers and the judge present.

after entering a deep state of relaxation questions were asked just like being in a courtroom under oath. yes and no questions. people under hypnosis do not do or say anything that they would otherwise not say, they have complete awareness and control, they are just deeply relaxed similar to a meditative state of mind.

at one point my friend was asked a question and instead of yes, no reply it was discovered there was memories from another date and time before my friends actual birth. the details given were not anything you can find on the internet but afterwards was discovered to be part of her families history that no one in the present family were aware of. there was no way she could have heard about or otherwise known about these details unless she had experienced them in some way. her legal background history now contains the fact that she could very well be the reincarnation of this person from the Salem witch trials days of long ago, not delusional or hallucinations.

The court situation also revealed that she does in fact have 5 DID alters not counting her memories from long ago. the 5 alters came into being not due to the reincarnation history but due to extreme traumatic abuse before she was 4 years old.

so again it is part of her legal history now that she is not delusional, hallucinating, that she has DID and that before she became DID she may be this person reincarnated.

many people under the budhist religion believe in reincarnation so its not unheard of for someone of that religion to be dual diagnosed at being a reincarnation and having DID.

I am not saying a persons alters are the reincarnation, here where I am the diagnostics rules that situation out. that said I have encountered those that before abuse were or are or are tracing their history with this kind of thing.

bottom line is its not up to me to say someone is or isnt a reincarnation and DID. only their own treatment providers can say that.

my own opinion is a person can be a reincarnation first and then due to extreme traumatic abuse end up with DID too.

[Michael W. Harris]

Originally Posted by Patchwokg1rl

I have a friend that claims to be the reincarnation of Harley Quinn, who she can summon at will, but who also comes through at random times. Is it possible that she has DID or is she just trying to mess with me?

Who the hell is Harley Quinn? I have a bunch of O'Quin ancestors.

I have an alter that believes he is Pinocchio. Every time we tell a lie our penis gets smaller. That is why women don't like me.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by Michael W. Harris

Who the hell is Harley Quinn? I have a bunch of O'Quin ancestors.

I have an alter that believes he is Pinocchio. Every time we tell a lie our penis gets smaller. That is why women don't like me.

batman series character played by real life actress mia sara and Margot Robbie.

Harley Quinn is also a character in a romance novel who died in a car crash....

in short there are many different book and movie characters named Harley Quinn but the most known is in the batman series as the jokers girlfriend. I cant count how many times that character was brought to the brink of death and back or captured briefly.

[dlantern]

Gee yall sound like not in the know, no but really who needs to prove....if u wanna ask who is arguing for not the dx's is one thing but to come on here and not understand wow, hopeful just wondering why you all dont have those type alters. Newbie indeed

[Amyjay]

The op didn't ask us to understand she asked "is it possible she has DID or is she just messing with me". Each person who responded gave their honest answer to that question. As far i can tell looks like we gave the response the op asked for.

I just expressed my personal experience...I can not speak for the rest of the planet.

But please note...our switches can happen in a split second mid sentence...or revolving door like.

What we said earlier was casual like.

I know someone who claims that every day she is in contact with steve jobs, and when people point out to her that steve jobs is actually dead, she gets all defensive and refuses to talk to that person again

[L.P.]

Originally Posted by Patchwokg1rl

I have a friend that claims to be the reincarnation of Harley Quinn, who she can summon at will, but who also comes through at random times. Is it possible that she has DID or is she just trying to mess with me?

DID? I doubt it. From what I understand (which is admittedly not a lot) people with DID cannot generally summon others within their system. Now I did say generally, there will always be exceptions to rules.

I would, however, say that it would appear that your friend does have something going on. It is not within the realm of normal behavior to go around self summoning Harley Quinn or telling people they are the reincarnation of a fictional character. Unless, of course this friend is the sort of person who does things for the sole purpose of messing with people. It is difficult to say without knowing this person. I have known people who do mess with people for whatever reason. I have also known people who have mental health issues and behave in 'odd' ways as a form of attention seeking because something is wrong and they need help. I have also known people who are, for example, schizophrenic and need their meds tweaked when they start exhibiting delusional thinking.

Short of it, it could be anything.

Amsterdam

I thought she may be DID at 1 time, especially when I talked to steve myself (obviously not steve, her)

but yeah. I don't honestly know about her.

she might be

Originally Posted by L.P.

DID? I doubt it. From what I understand (which is admittedly not a lot) people with DID cannot generally summon others within their system. Now I did say generally, there will always be exceptions to rules.

I would, however, say that it would appear that your friend does have something going on. It is not within the realm of normal behavior to go around self summoning Harley Quinn or telling people they are the reincarnation of a fictional character. Unless, of course this friend is the sort of person who does things for the sole purpose of messing with people. It is difficult to say without knowing this person. I have known people who do mess with people for whatever reason. I have also known people who have mental health issues and behave in 'odd' ways as a form of attention seeking because something is wrong and they need help. I have also known people who are, for example, schizophrenic and need their meds tweaked when they start exhibiting delusional thinking.

Short of it, it could be anything.

Amsterdam

We in our system can ask for an Other to present.....but they actually doing so is another thing. Some do some don't.

"Summoning" is such a voodoo word...it's icky.

[dlantern]

If it meant my $25 hr job we do and would be calling names to get better,( DID therapy). I know though I was in denial at first about how could this be before we educated ourselves. The journey is just that you gotta understand be patient as you can defend and scold is the name of the game.......


Those that know only get in contact with fictional fictive/factive introject because you want to remain a fan. They get heckled and know what is happening all the more reason to be on facebook and twitter it comes with the territory. Referring to the Steve Jobs comment earlier post.

[yagr]

Originally Posted by amandalouise

many people under the budhist religion believe in reincarnation so its not unheard of for someone of that religion to be dual diagnosed at being a reincarnation and having DID.

To clarify, while I'm sure it is true that there are a couple of Buddhist folks who claim to believe in reincarnation, it is not a Buddhist belief. Buddhists, like myself, believe in rebirth. The difference is that with reincarnation, it is the ego state that is reborn. In rebirth, the ego state is destroyed at death.

I have often heard people try to make sense out of Buddhist teachings when they come from a culture that is not heavily influenced by Buddhism, by saying that it is the soul that is reborn - but there's no concept of a soul in Buddhism either. In trying to explain the concept to non-Buddhists, I tend to use the phrase 'true self' as opposed to 'ego self'. The phrase is not Buddhist sanctioned but it gets as close to the Buddhist truth as most people care to know.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by yagr

To clarify, while I'm sure it is true that there are a couple of Buddhist folks who claim to believe in reincarnation, it is not a Buddhist belief. Buddhists, like myself, believe in rebirth. The difference is that with reincarnation, it is the ego state that is reborn. In rebirth, the ego state is destroyed at death.

I have often heard people try to make sense out of Buddhist teachings when they come from a culture that is not heavily influenced by Buddhism, by saying that it is the soul that is reborn - but there's no concept of a soul in Buddhism either. In trying to explain the concept to non-Buddhists, I tend to use the phrase 'true self' as opposed to 'ego self'. The phrase is not Buddhist sanctioned but it gets as close to the Buddhist truth as most people care to know.

thanks yes i know that is why I worded my post as in ....many... not as in absolutes talking about all.... we have some Buddhist sects/ temples/ people here in NY state that do hold the belief of reincarnation. A close friend of mine is of one of these sects/temples that hold the belief in reincarnation.