I've often heard of people with OSDD describe themselves as having one ANP and different versions of themselves. Do they or you experience missing memories? Have alters that take over and do things that you don't remember? Feel like just an observer at times? Is being co-conscious a thing with you? Do you feel walls and boundaries you can't cross or access?

Do your parts have a way of being: walk, talk, dress, think, opinions, ideas, behave, mannerism....everything?

Just trying to better understand myself and the Others.

Thank-you.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by AlwaysChanging2

I've often heard of people with OSDD describe themselves as having one ANP and different versions of themselves. Do they or you experience missing memories? Have alters that take over and do things that you don't remember? Feel like just an observer at times? Is being co-conscious a thing with you? Do you feel walls and boundaries you can't cross or access?

Do your parts have a way of being: walk, talk, dress, think, opinions, ideas, behave, mannerism....everything?

Just trying to better understand myself and the Others.

Thank-you.

depends on which criteria of OSDD you are talking about there are 4 categories for OSDD....

in short the first one is having dissociation problems that have less than marked discontinuity in problems and no amnesia... in other words alters dont take control and you dont have any memory problems , memory loss, amnesia like symptoms.

in short the second one is for having dissociation problems due to brain washing, thought reform, torture from cults/ sects and political prisons/ political terrorism. example Guantanamo bay survivors, survivors of prisoners of war, FLDS cult.... where memories are that of what the abusers have programmed into their victims. they remember their live before being captured, indoctrinated, tortured but because of the brainwashing techniques the past memories feel unreal or wrong and the present memories feel real and right. many people in this situation have to undergo deprogramming therapy.

in short the third criteria does have whats called ....micro amnesia. this has nothing to do with alters and the like. its where due to extreme stress a person will have acute (meaning its a limited event not chronic meaning not happening every time) dissociative reactions.... example sometimes I will be stressed out with a sick child, a meeting at work and a court date to attend. my stress reaction is to feel numb spaced out and disconnected and get everything done while my mind is on automatic. when everything gets done I have small gaps in my memories about these stressful events. but this reaction doesnt happen every time my child is sick and doesnt happen every time i have meetings and court dates.

the last category in this disorder is dissociative trance. this is similar to being catatonic where your mind just shuts down or off. but it is limited (acute) not long
term like catatonia with psychosis disorders....you are not aware of some or all of whats around you, or those around you, you are not aware of some or all of whats going on around you. un responsive.... example of dissociative trance in me was when i was notified that an abuser was being paroled from prison. that abuser had threatened harm to me and my family upon his release. I sat there hold the notification letter staring at the letter but not seeing it, my mind was completely blank, I could not stand up nor put the letter down. i could barely hear my wife say its going to be ok, could barely hear my children in the other room, could barely feel my wife take the letter, could barely feel my wife put her arms around me.

ANP and EP are terms not used here where I am associated with DID. here where I am its part of a therapy approach called Structural Dissociation theory. here where I am this is used with things like PTSD, Anxiety disorders and so on.

Here where I am we use the term sense of agency and not limit/ define alters as being just emotional or just appearing to be normal. here where I am sense of agency better applies because here DID type alters can both perform normal things and present with emotions and feelings at the same time.

example rainy who was my emotional alter for depression, sadness, could also dress herself, make a snack, wash up play with her toys watch tv and other normal things that normal people do.

Originally Posted by amandalouise

depends on which criteria of OSDD you are talking about there are 4 categories for OSDD....

in short the first one is having dissociation problems that have less than marked discontinuity in problems and no amnesia... in other words alters dont take control and you dont have any memory problems , memory loss, amnesia like symptoms.

in short the second one is for having dissociation problems due to brain washing, thought reform, torture from cults/ sects and political prisons/ political terrorism. example Guantanamo bay survivors, survivors of prisoners of war, FLDS cult.... where memories are that of what the abusers have programmed into their victims. they remember their live before being captured, indoctrinated, tortured but because of the brainwashing techniques the past memories feel unreal or wrong and the present memories feel real and right. many people in this situation have to undergo deprogramming therapy.

in short the third criteria does have whats called ....micro amnesia. this has nothing to do with alters and the like. its where due to extreme stress a person will have acute (meaning its a limited event not chronic meaning not happening every time) dissociative reactions.... example sometimes I will be stressed out with a sick child, a meeting at work and a court date to attend. my stress reaction is to feel numb spaced out and disconnected and get everything done while my mind is on automatic. when everything gets done I have small gaps in my memories about these stressful events. but this reaction doesnt happen every time my child is sick and doesnt happen every time i have meetings and court dates.

the last category in this disorder is dissociative trance. this is similar to being catatonic where your mind just shuts down or off. but it is limited (acute) not long
term like catatonia with psychosis disorders....you are not aware of some or all of whats around you, or those around you, you are not aware of some or all of whats going on around you. un responsive.... example of dissociative trance in me was when i was notified that an abuser was being paroled from prison. that abuser had threatened harm to me and my family upon his release. I sat there hold the notification letter staring at the letter but not seeing it, my mind was completely blank, I could not stand up nor put the letter down. i could barely hear my wife say its going to be ok, could barely hear my children in the other room, could barely feel my wife take the letter, could barely feel my wife put her arms around me.

ANP and EP are terms not used here where I am associated with DID. here where I am its part of a therapy approach called Structural Dissociation theory. here where I am this is used with things like PTSD, Anxiety disorders and so on.

Here where I am we use the term sense of agency and not limit/ define alters as being just emotional or just appearing to be normal. here where I am sense of agency better applies because here DID type alters can both perform normal things and present with emotions and feelings at the same time.

example rainy who was my emotional alter for depression, sadness, could also dress herself, make a snack, wash up play with her toys watch tv and other normal things that normal people do.

Wow, thank you for that explanation....it definitely answered some unknowns confirming what I know to be true...just wasn't sure what the bottom line was.

I've experienced 3&4, but my condition is so much more as expressed through the past year or years. This helps a lot.

You must be at a real keyboard, lol.

[dlantern]

I can really only deal in DID PTSD, so sometimes looking at the opposite can get you to understand the other four. We continously lose time and behave in a way that is not shared too. Maybe it is dangerous in the long run too risky or whatever the issue maybe. If I walked out of the in a ourposelful dialouge wit alters then I must call forth whom had already turned the pot on, if either of two in question arent informed or think heat dont burn then boom just like that a hand us burned. This happened to us the other down passive influence is easy to understand and the best easy to notice a gentle shifiting in the mind swich also the fact that the pot burned someone.

Yea we share like a mut someone might wear sevral article of clothing for several alter. We are all different but can be cohesive at times. We are kind of switch dominant but at the same time we dont everything about each other. For instance whom had turned on the pot had not clue some alter would step aside in anothet for another convo if they had someone would have gotten shared to so that a burned wouldnt have happend especially with an outing planned. Also u can go for other explanations fighting to send a stay at home message extremely stressed mindfulness isn't a cure 100% or that brain wiring issue or I just want to show and alter why they need to learn what is happening risking us on how to share.