It seems like our thinking is in overdrive times the number of other parts awake at the same time. A singleton carries (assuming) one line of thought but whereas we are many thoughts sometimes conflicting in nature or complimentary.

This is mentally taxing to the point of mental fatigue. Then for the brain to have active parts even while sleeping, to be in REM sleep but parts awake....

Can this cause a significant amount of brain aging in a person where the brain is actually older than the body? Headache causing? Brain cramps? Brain cringing?

We often times, even during the day, are literally too tired to think. I know I’m physically tired at times....but days and hours on end of furious nonstop brain activity....

Then with a bipolar drive to it...

Or am I just getting old?

[abusedtoy]

I see in your signature, it says BD, stands for bipolar disorder, but with C-PTSD and DID/OSDD, are you being separately diagnosed of this two? I have been diagnosed with dissociative identities as well and told that my diagnosis by my psychiatrist with C-PTSD is already an umbrella term for it. Any thoughts?

[abusedtoy]

I am thinking is it because the many voices in your head could cause an overburden to your brain feeling tired really quickly? Also the constant switching requiring much energy?

my brain gets es tired really quickly, and overwhelmed. Too many trains of thouht, too mamy imside people always talking at once.There is always someone inside awake, so we never actually all sleep at the same time.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by AlwaysChanging2

It seems like our thinking is in overdrive times the number of other parts awake at the same time. A singleton carries (assuming) one line of thought but whereas we are many thoughts sometimes conflicting in nature or complimentary.

This is mentally taxing to the point of mental fatigue. Then for the brain to have active parts even while sleeping, to be in REM sleep but parts awake....

Can this cause a significant amount of brain aging in a person where the brain is actually older than the body? Headache causing? Brain cramps? Brain cringing?

We often times, even during the day, are literally too tired to think. I know I’m physically tired at times....but days and hours on end of furious nonstop brain activity....

Then with a bipolar drive to it...

Or am I just getting old?

my therapist tells me that non dissociative people multi task and think about many things at once too. since being integrated I have found out that this is true, my wife will be taking care of a child, while getting dinner, while answering my question, and selecting her next days clothing, all the wile keeping each of these thoughts and actions on track and appropriate. my co worker can be thinking about her new date, while thinking about a case she is working on while answering the phone.... and me well that gets a bit interesting. I can be thinking row row row, while rowing my canoe while at the same time thinking what am I going to do about such and such, and wow look at that a loon over there, and also think that boater got too close to me I better move on over....

I do get mental fatigue now but before I was integrated no i never did. when I woke up i was fresh and ready for the day. I thought it was cool how other parts of me could do things when I wasnt aware, get things done that I could not handle and I could continue on as if nothing was happening. even those I was co conscious with I didnt get tired because I was having my dissociative symptoms of numbnss, spaced out and mentally disconnected from the physical aspects of what my body and brain were doing.

Originally Posted by amandalouise

my therapist tells me that non dissociative people multi task and think about many things at once too. since being integrated I have found out that this is true, my wife will be taking care of a child, while getting dinner, while answering my question, and selecting her next days clothing, all the wile keeping each of these thoughts and actions on track and appropriate. my co worker can be thinking about her new date, while thinking about a case she is working on while answering the phone.... and me well that gets a bit interesting. I can be thinking row row row, while rowing my canoe while at the same time thinking what am I going to do about such and such, and wow look at that a loon over there, and also think that boater got too close to me I better move on over....

I do get mental fatigue now but before I was integrated no i never did. when I woke up i was fresh and ready for the day. I thought it was cool how other parts of me could do things when I wasnt aware, get things done that I could not handle and I could continue on as if nothing was happening. even those I was co conscious with I didnt get tired because I was having my dissociative symptoms of numbnss, spaced out and mentally disconnected from the physical aspects of what my body and brain were doing.

I can understand that.....but it still perplexes me how a singleton can stay in track of multitasking. When I multitask : memories are missing, nothing is connected, everytask feels like it’s own job, I live in the now, the last five minutes don’t exist because a part switched it from like focus concentration to a human encounter then lost again (more than just being distracted because that moment is missing)...

I feel that most of my energy expended is trying to appear normal....to function as normal, searching and trying to keep a narrative amongst the parts in the public eye normal looking.

It’s very noisy in my mind...I guess the farce of living takes its toll on my energy level and mental capacity to look “together”.

It’s everything actually. Sigh.

Originally Posted by Starry_Night

my brain gets es tired really quickly, and overwhelmed. Too many trains of thouht, too mamy imside people always talking at once.There is always someone inside awake, so we never actually all sleep at the same time.

Exactly.

[Amyjay]

My ex T used to talk about mental fatigue, apparently people with trauma histories PTSD DID etc have more mental fatigue. It was one of ex Ts goals for us to increase mental capacity (to have less mental fatigue). She called it something else though. I can't remember what.

Originally Posted by Amyjay

My ex T used to talk about mental fatigue, apparently people with trauma histories PTSD DID etc have more mental fatigue. It was one of ex Ts goals for us to increase mental capacity (to have less mental fatigue). She called it something else though. I can't remember what.

Are you talking about brain exercises? I think there might be an app for that. I feel like a total air head at times...like brain power comes and goes.

I’ve got bad concentration and focus.

[Amyjay]

Umm no, I mean the mental fatigue, she called that something else. Lower mental efficiency or something? It is a "thing", a symptom of dissociation, or associated with DID (or maybe even lots of psychological disorders). It is a thing that improves with therapy and resolution of the dissociative processes. Or something like that.

[amandalouise]

jsut wanted to add here where I am located another word for mental fatigue is called mental exhaustion. the fix for it is to stop doing what is making one tired mentally, take a break, take a walk, focus on fun , light and easy activities... take time off to rest and relax. make fewer decisions, simplify life, pick your battles...rather than trying to fix it all, do it all. take it one step at a time. and that cliche take time to smell the roses. diet and exercise can also help.

another word for mental fatigue here is called work stress, work burn out. the fix for it is taking a vacation, enjoy things you love to do, leave work behind and spend time noticing things around you, grounding, breathing.

when I get mental fatigued I take my canoe out on the lake and row, i take a walk, the family and I go hiking or out for a picnic or to central park for ice skating. one of my favorite activities to combat my mental fatigue is taking my dogs out to a favorite wide open field and throw frisbe or ball with them. or just plan jog around the city. when I cant get out in the open air I enjoy reading a book to my children. right now we are reading the velveteen rabbit and we also are watching the harry potter series of movies with the older children.

overtired, no.

overloaded, sure

we can take like 1 tiny thought and keep it their for a while, but not long.. anymore stuff we have to think about and we just forget what we were thinking of originally

Originally Posted by Amyjay

Umm no, I mean the mental fatigue, she called that something else. Lower mental efficiency or something? It is a "thing", a symptom of dissociation, or associated with DID (or maybe even lots of psychological disorders). It is a thing that improves with therapy and resolution of the dissociative processes. Or something like that.

There are times when we are sharp as a tack.... can see the fundamental structure of everything universal ....but then bu4n out and is dumb as a rock.

Don’t know. Thanks though...but I get what you are saying.

[Michael W. Harris]

I am sixty-two so everything gets easily tired. I have had sleep problems my whole life. I am a chronic sleep talker and sleep walker. Well actually I do not sleep walk too often when I am not drinking. But I had some severe sleep walking episodes as a child. Once where I was dreaming that I was going to my parents bathroom. I opened the door in my sleep and took the first step into what I thought was their bathroom. I fell all the way down the basement stairs. The two doors were side by side. Luckily I was not hurt.

I have often felt mentally tired. Sleep problems are one primary cause. There could be many causes not just dissociation.

[Michael W. Harris]

Another point, I have been emotionally tired my whole life. Tired of the weirdness. Tired of the loneliness. Tired of fighting people who want to hurt me or make me fail in life for no other reason than meanness. Is that the same thing as mentally tired?

Originally Posted by Michael W. Harris

Another point, I have been emotionally tired my whole life. Tired of the weirdness. Tired of the loneliness. Tired of fighting people who want to hurt me or make me fail in life for no other reason than meanness. Is that the same thing as mentally tired?

I too am tired of being the “oddball”. Tired of searching, desiring, yearning for that which so many people so freely employ and enjoy as we struggle to make it another step in life.

I don’t know if it is jusrt a bipolar thing with hypomania where the mind is revved up and rapid thinking happens. But perplex that with multipleness...the brain functions at a ferocious rate. I literally feel drained, shut down, brain tired, airheaded... like parts just shut down out of exhaustion.

I guess that’s what I’m wondering...if it is a common trait for DID/OSDD with out bipolar.

[cool09]

My mental energy a lot of the times is very slow. I attribute it to depression or bpd. When it wasn't slow it was racing. Geodon normalized the speed of my thoughts a few years ago.