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Old Jan 19, 2009, 09:30 PM
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Soulful, thanks for sharing that. I totally agree with her on that last line "are normal people like “friends” they are your friends, co-workers. They are your doctors. Whom ever. It isn’t like the sleezy weird oddball people. It’s not them. It’s the people you wouldn’t suspect. That is where I think they missed the boat. "
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Old Jan 22, 2009, 10:55 AM
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I love this show! Last year in my psychology class, I learned about DID and it was one of the most interesting topics that I studied. I have always wanted someone to make a show about it.

There is also a few movies about this disorder. One of them is the Three Faces of Eve.

Its great that disorders like these that people think are fake are being backed by the media.
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Old Jan 22, 2009, 11:05 AM
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The bottom line is...............................................I got my own darn movie...........and it plays wherever I gooooooooooooo............
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Old Jan 22, 2009, 04:51 PM
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[QUOTE=Rhapsody;922690]I think the reasons behind Tara's disorder will come out as the series continues.... one can only put so much into 30 minutes.

As a DIDer I do not feel that Tara changed simply because she did not want to deal, but rather because she was not able to deal - hence the reason for DID / Alters being presence in the first place.

**I was quoting what others said about it, not exactly what I believed. I havent made up my mind. I too am a DIDer. My alters come out when they come out. Sometimes I have no clue why. LIke now, during a new job. I am switching all over the place and I am not sure why.

While most people with DID do not remember what an alters does while he/she is present - there are a few people with DID like ME that are very much aware of their alters, their names, the reasons they came and what they do when they are in control of our physical mind and body.

***I am now aware of a few of mine due to therapy. Prior to this I was totally unaware and lost huge chunks of time.

Tara is not an alter - but rather the host body (the actual person) with the disorder.

***I do understand that Tara is not an alter. I have been dx'd for a while now. And have read as much as possible to educate myself.

I was only stating some of what I read and a little of what I believe. I probably did not make my own views as clear since I am still sorting it out. I am not sure how I feel about the show. All in all, it was the interviews with Steven Speilberg and the crew that upset me more than the show. I tried to be open minded about the show. But it did upset me that she was so over the top. Maybe that is a good thing I don't know. Someone said they thought with Tara's alters being so over the top other people watching would realize that most real DID'er's would not be like that. I am not sure.
I haven't spoken to many people that have seen the show. I am sort of afraid to talk to IRL people about it. Too triggery right now.

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I think the reasons behind Tara's disorder will come out as the series continues.... one can only put so much into 30 minutes.

As a DIDer I do not feel that Tara changed simply because she did not want to deal, but rather because she was not able to deal - hence the reason for DID / Alters being presence in the first place.

**I was quoting what others said about it, not exactly what I believed. I havent made up my mind. I too am a DIDer. My alters come out when they come out. Sometimes I have no clue why. LIke now, during a new job. I am switching all over the place and I am not sure why.

While most people with DID do not remember what an alters does while he/she is present - there are a few people with DID like ME that are very much aware of their alters, their names, the reasons they came and what they do when they are in control of our physical mind and body.

***I am now aware of a few of mine due to therapy. Prior to this I was totally unaware and lost huge chunks of time.

Tara is not an alter - but rather the host body (the actual person) with the disorder.

***I do understand that Tara is not an alter. I have been dx'd for a while now. And have read as much as possible to educate myself.

I was only stating some of what I read and a little of what I believe. I probably did not make my own views as clear since I am still sorting it out. I am not sure how I feel about the show. All in all, it was the interviews with Steven Speilberg and the crew that upset me more than the show. I tried to be open minded about the show. But it did upset me that she was so over the top. Maybe that is a good thing I don't know. Someone said they thought with Tara's alters being so over the top other people watching would realize that most real DID'er's would not be like that. I am not sure.
I haven't spoken to many people that have seen the show. I am sort of afraid to talk to IRL people about it. Too triggery right now.

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I know for me that I have so many feeling's thoughts etc...I think those of us with DID and what not would feel a different array of opinions beings we have so many ...So with that being said I also like soulfulgrrls post too!! I found a link not to long back that showed it was done in like 1993 or something but anyway's it has a few people on it youtube I belive but there was police officer that was DID and he did he job WELL great had lost of awards and what not...No one knew his hellish battle that he was suffering etc...Point is that everyone will take differnt things from these show's and some people will stay with there sterotypes of DID and some may become more aware of just how "normal" the everyday person is that has DID...I think it's great that it's being talked about though even if we agree to disagree.. I internally can't figure out if I like the show one minute or hate it the next But seriously I really think that it will do some good...I hope so...

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Old Jan 22, 2009, 06:34 PM
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I agree with that whole 'having so many thoughts and feelings' thing - and most of them are conflicting. I don't get that channel so i can't see the show, but I bet it would be determined by "who " watched it.
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Old Jan 22, 2009, 07:07 PM
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Hi Kiya,
I don't have showtime either..I just watched the premiere on youtube (united states of Tara) type that in on youtube and that should bring that episode up ONLY if you want to watch it lol...
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I agree with that whole 'having so many thoughts and feelings' thing - and most of them are conflicting. I don't get that channel so i can't see the show, but I bet it would be determined by "who " watched it.

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Old Jan 22, 2009, 09:03 PM
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Ok i Youtubed it.
THings that caught my attention: "We're all angry at the crazy", Son was reading Syble, gal has the same robe I do lol, [her switching "keeps it interesting"], that the husband wouldn't have sex with 'T' (yay H!) waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much making out for me *ugg!*, "I'm still trying to get used to my legs" lol, black nail polish from alter (I get that allllllll the time...come to think on it, the toe nails are black once again).
LOLOLOLOL ok that lil brother of her getting in on the fight, i fell over laughing. I really did.

Ahhhhhhhh ok.... Overall I can't say that I like it. I thought it was too Sally Jessie Raphel or Heraldo or something. But hey- i watched it. or most of it. Can't watch the making out scenes. Blah.
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I'd love to hear more about people's impressions of the show. I think I am more interested in your impressions of it than I am interested in watching the show.

I wonder if the creators referenced people with the DID or did they only a ask therapist? I would think for a more accurate take, there should be at least one therapist and perhaps several individuals with the condition on the reference panel. Cost would certainly be a factor.

But, I haven't even seen it so that's why I care about what people with DID think, feel and say.
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Dr. Colin Ross
http://www.rossinst.com/

and Leah Peterson
http://www.lulu.com/content/120809

were listed in the credits as consultants for the show.

I also think Richard Kluft of the Ridgeview Institute and the International Society for the Study of Multiple Personality & Dissociation was consulted as well.
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Old Jan 22, 2009, 11:22 PM
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I liked the show, or at least some aspects of it, I appreciated the humerous side, if only because it makes it.... somehow not such a "horrible thing"... one problem I've seen with mental illnesses is they're just unaccepted in our society, so to make it a comfortable thing by showing it in a light manner was a good thing I thought.

However, I think the extremes ... the dressing up made sense MAYBE for T, but NOT for the erm... guy. I could see a 15 year old teen wanting to dress up... but they made such a big deal of the switch and clothing and such... making... it ... ick

anyways, I'm hoping to find a way to see it beyond the first episode - don't have normal cable let alone showtime
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Overall I can't say that I like it. I thought it was too Sally Jessie Raphel or Heraldo or something. But hey- i watched it. or most of it.
I agree.

Just my personal opinion here guys, only worth two cents. Hope I don't offend anyone. I respect everyone's views on this.

BUT -- I had some issues with parts of the show.

I felt the "characters" were way over the top too, especially since most that are living with disscociative disorders work their butts off to keep everyone/thing hidden, and rarely does anyone even know they switched. It seemed weird to me that the insiders would be so trusting as to let everyone in the family know their names. Again, just my take.

I think those who deal with theses disorders can definetly get a chuckle, but people who are not familiar with DID and DD's will also find lots of humor in it because it does play out like a comedy. But at who's expense?

I know it was only the first episode, so I'm hoping that if they're going to shine a light on the subject, then be straight up about the reason people have DID in the first place.

Plus, the husband, very casually and smug says he's been "dealing with it" for seventeen years...what message of hope and healing was that to send out, if after 17 years, she is still so fragmented?

I don't see any comedy shows about people with cancer or aids. I doubt people who suffer with such serious diseases would find humor in any of their daily struggles, nor would their family members. Why would Spielberg think a comedy about a serious mental disorder would be acceptable?

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I guess all in all I am looking at the movie from an entertainment stand point and with that I can say that I really liked it - the movie got my husband and I talking about my DID again..... like the time when one of my teen age alters tried to have sex with my husband with out letting him know that it was not me (just like in the movie).
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Well, I just re-read the old posts again, and the new posts. Each one coming from a different point in the process to winning. You explain your impressions so well. I caught a picture of the movie!

Your understanding of the topic goes deep and you tell over and over again about the subtlety of DID compared to the blatant changes of attire in the sitcom, the pain around the trailer having the husband say: "putting up with 'it' for 17 years", the joy and hope around presenting it publicly in order to obtain more funding to combat the initial reasons for the condition of DID in the first place, and furthering research to perhaps create movies/shows with even more taste, clarity, understanding and compassion.

Would you mind terribly, if I asked you to keep posting your impressions, perhaps of the next shows. I really feel so much stronger when I read your stand against injustice and how you wave the banner of hope. I feel so much stronger, when I keep alongside of your great, great courage. I know you might not feel so courageous but you are my heroes. Geez I'm making myself cry. Anyway, Thanks. I'll keep my eyes seeking and reading.
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I'd love to, I just don't know how I"m going to get access to the show, if I can find the episodes somewhere online, that would be great, let me know if there's any way to see it guys! thanks so much, hope the next episodes get good!
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I tried to watch the show on YouTube, but I think I spaced out through a lot of it (or else it was only 4-5 minutes long haha).

Having DID really kind of messed up my children in some ways. In some ways I was a better mom because of the DID but in some ways it really screwed with their minds. I saw the chick degrading her son at one point and I just felt so bad for the son. The daughter seemed to be struggling too. That part has been real for me as far as my children struggling and being confused.

My children get it now and are more understanding but they haven't always gotten it and they haven't always been understanding. They've always loved me and they've sometimes hated me. It took all of us some intensive therapy to get through some things.

Also, because I was so unaware, I wasn't able to protect my children from people that did bad things. Had I been more aware, I would have been able to protect them better. My children and I have always been very close and tight knit. But DID doesn't always make for a fun time.

I understand the producers desire to make it a comedy and to make it interesting but at what cost? Overall, from the little bit I saw, I was not so impressed. That could be because of where I am in my healing though. Perhaps if I was further along in my healing, I could find more humor in things like that.

There are times I can laugh at myself for things. But that show made me think that others were laughing at me as well. I dunno. I just wasn't very impressed overall. I don't have showtime but it doesn't really matter to me. I am not interested in seeing any other shows.

Sometimes I feel like a freak show. I guess I don't need a show to make me feel more so.

This is just my opinion about how I feel about the show though. Everyone sees things differently and that's cool.
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Sometimes I feel like a freak show. I guess I don't need a show to make me feel more so.
(((((((( wanttoheal )))))))) I happen to agree with you. I have only seen a trailer of it that Orange Blossom provided. That was enough for me! I live in the UK so I don't have to watch it but I find it sad that a comedy has been made out of this. I wonder if people realize the trauma we have been through that led to DID. Would they make a comedy out of that!
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There are times I can laugh at myself for things. But that show made me think that others were laughing at me as well.

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That says it all right there. That's exactly what I was trying to say.
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(((((((( wanttoheal )))))))) I happen to agree with you. I have only seen a trailer of it that Orange Blossom provided. That was enough for me! I live in the UK so I don't have to watch it but I find it sad that a comedy has been made out of this. I wonder if people realize the trauma we have been through that led to DID. Would they make a comedy out of that!

My life has not been very funny,and it is definately not a joke......

Its sad

Thankful to be alive......

Running water sounds good to me..........and hot........thats an extra blessing..............

I try to live with a lighthearted seriousness and serious lightheartedness.....

I have done alot of work on myself.......to find out I am niether introvert nor extrovert..............

Now thats coolST
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Wanttoheal's last post also brought up some things for me too - because I still don't know if my own mom is DID. I am certainly in part from what I had to endure, but I might also be in part from having to live as a chamelion to fit who my parents became. I can't tell if these are BPD traits, DID, something else... or if, like me they are DID with alters exhibiting BPD, Depression, Narcisism...etc. All I know is that they changed "people" reguarly and I also had to change who I was in the moment to get through it. (thinking of W2H's talk of how her DID affected her kids). it is hard to make sense of the world when the whole thing is a kleidescope.
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No fragments of my imagination
Each a whole person.
Hi, I wave back!
Prove it to me, prove it to you, no
Prove it them, yes
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Cry, hurt and broken places or pieces?
I’m whole too!
Try to hug the screen of understanding
Tender expression, a hug, many hugs, smiles soft and shy
You whole, me whole
Your pain and your humor, Yes!
A wholeness more than viewers who search
for help in a broken world.
Who will let them in too?
Welcome them who laughed and tried to pretend I wasn’t real
Live or forgive them their trespasses?
NO
Someone else will, of a much higher tree, they hope
Pieces of torn paper, lifting in the breeze of change
Movie world swirl my pieces together, patched, no crackled lines
Challenge with hands on hip, head leaning, face, resolute grimace
to achieve something years has not achieved?
Hurrumph, I don’t think so!
Friends who are sound, ground, found equals of every walk of life
I eat and drink with you
Joyous
Content
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Drawing strength, endurance from your online life
Me, try to hug the screen of understanding?
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Meet me?
Forgive?
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