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Old Apr 20, 2013, 06:15 PM
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Let's see, the Rabbi states you are in a toxic relationship, but errs against divorce feeling that with intervention, your H will change?
Hmmm, coaxing, getting a personality disorder prognosis, going sober, etc...didn't change the toxicity that my exh brought into the marital home.
Some old dogs cannot be taught new tricks.
But with this out there, with your reaching out for spiritual guidance, what will you end up choosing?
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Old Apr 23, 2013, 12:00 PM
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Guess where I'll be going for services from now on?
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Great story! And good for you for getting the firearms out of your house!
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Old Apr 24, 2013, 12:30 AM
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Oh, no question about my allegience. I'm sticking with the small town pastor who is standing by me without questioning my loyalty, salvation or morality.

To wrap up the rabbi story, he called me and asked me to participate in a phone call/email with H so that WE could confront H about his bad behavior and see if he was going to be accountable for his actions, and thus ensure his salvation.

I decined this most generous offer and gave two reasons for doing so. First - I did not want H to misconstrue that if he did X and Y, I would change my mind about divorce. My mind is made up. Second, H's salvation is H's issue and nothing I can control. H has a conscience, as evidenced by the fact that he has apologized for his misdeeds countless times (tho once a month for eight years, he has tried to convince me to participate in the atrocious behavior, so perhpas I overstate his conscience). H doesn't need my involvement to confess his sins, repent and resolve to never do these things again. So I told rabbi that if he wanted to work with H, that was between the two of them, but I would not be involved.

Boundary drawn and enforced. Man I love therapy!
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Old May 10, 2013, 01:48 AM
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I do not know the full story or H background.

Maybe a separation is needed for both of you. It could be temporary or a set time.

Once the separation is done and you live in separate homes, try counseling again. We often see life different when away from the situation. H probably doesn't believe you'll ever leave, thus he will never try to change.

Many pastors will agree with separation vs divorce as a first step.

Prayers to you.
Have you ever been abused, liveforfish?
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