[twigimai]

Is it a normal tendency for a person who tried to commit suicide to speak fictiously negatively? My friend is telling me things that I know are untrue. How would I help them if they stopped seeking professional help? Thank you.

[MickeyCheeky]

What things is he telling you? Suicidal people (usually ones with depression) usually have very low self-esteem and can't see things for what they truly are, so there's that, if that's what you mean.. You can only support your friend when he/she needs help.

[twigimai]

Originally Posted by MickeyCheeky

What things is he telling you? Suicidal people (usually ones with depression) usually have very low self-esteem and can't see things for what they truly are, so there's that, if that's what you mean.. You can only support your friend when he/she needs help.

Well she's misquoting things that I've told her and totally making things up that I've never said. For true example: I told her about one of my friends going to Mexico with me and hanging out with these 2 girls at a dance club and she turned it to me telling her that the girls were all over me hugging me and that I then gave them to my friend when those girls never touched me nor did I even talk with them. And instead of saying it was in Mexico (the country), she said it was New Mexico (U.S.). How can it be so "turned" in her mind like that?

[Frankbtl]

Hi twigimai

Welcome to PC!!!
It's possible she has mental health issues and I'm really sorry, I know you're concerned about your friend, but we really aren't able to diagnose here.
Although among other possibles do you think she could be depressed?? That's certainly one thing to think about after an attempt..........if it is that "straightforward" it might be that in her depression she hasn't really attended to what you've told her in the first place.......kind of just nodded and thrown in some comments as the words flow over her, if you know what I mean.........and then just tried to piece things together, perhaps mixing them up with other things.......at other times that have just "flowed over" her...........but not only focus/concentration also memory as well can be effected by depression............sometimes people can give you the impression they are attending or not so bad/even "put on a front" with depression, but inside..........
Now I'm just guessing about your friend and I might easily be wrong.........just some thoughts.........

And yes, definitely professional assessment could be a good thing!!! If she's not encouraged by you to access this is there anyone close to her that you could express your concerns to who might have a little more influence??
Or are there any other/different professionals you could direct her to who might be able to lead her further to the help she may need??
Even encouraging her to try helplines could turn out to be an advantage.........
Maybe begin (if you haven't already!!) by openly expressing your concerns about her to her and see if she'll talk a little more to you about what's going on for her, then if she starts talking a little more she might be more open to support from you and from others if she needs it..........



Alison

[LillyParker]

When we feel something depressed and low with our life.

[twigimai]

I also wondered if employees that work with the mentally disabled at a facility are very sensitive to laments using words such as retarded or mentally disabled. I believe that everyone (to some degree) are mentally disabled at times through our said to be normal lives, but I do feel an extreme sensitivity they have towards the use of words associated with their clients.

[Rose76]

As part of their training to take on the work they do, these employees probably are sternly warned against using pejorative language that could be especially wounding to the clients they serve. It wouldn't surprise me to find that they tend to parrot off that same admonition to their associates outside of that area of work. When you think about if for a minute, does it really surprise you?

[twigimai]

Originally Posted by Rose76

As part of their training to take on the work they do, these employees probably are sternly warned against using pejorative language that could be especially wounding to the clients they serve. It wouldn't surprise me to find that they tend to parrot off that same admonition to their associates outside of that area of work. When you think about if for a minute, does it really surprise you?

No, it doesn't surprise me. Thanks.

[Sunflower123]

Originally Posted by twigimai

Is it a normal tendency for a person who tried to commit suicide to speak fictiously negatively? My friend is telling me things that I know are untrue. How would I help them if they stopped seeking professional help? Thank you.

She could be on medication that is clouding her thinking. Her mental issues may also be getting worse. If she refuses to go to therapy there is not much you can do but to support here and be a good friend. Best wishes.