[Gymrat22]

My husband’s older sister is not only writing a book but has also been on various Podcasts lying about her childhood. She claims her real mother died when she was born (not true, she’s still alive). The worst of it is that she claims that the couple who raised her are a part of the Illuminatti who made her a sex slave since birth.her story is awful and people actually believe her. She cut off her entire family and childhood friends and moved away in her 20’s. She’s now 45 yrs old with her book coming out soon. She has never actually named my in-laws names but it’s still slander. Is there ANY way to get her to see the truth? The truth is that her parents were loving people and never harmed her. We’ve given her evidence to disprove her story but she still believes she is an Illuminatti victim of satanic sexual abuse.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by Gymrat22

My husband’s older sister is not only writing a book but has also been on various Podcasts lying about her childhood. She claims her real mother died when she was born (not true, she’s still alive). The worst of it is that she claims that the couple who raised her are a part of the Illuminatti who made her a sex slave since birth.her story is awful and people actually believe her. She cut off her entire family and childhood friends and moved away in her 20’s. She’s now 45 yrs old with her book coming out soon. She has never actually named my in-laws names but it’s still slander. Is there ANY way to get her to see the truth? The truth is that her parents were loving people and never harmed her. We’ve given her evidence to disprove her story but she still believes she is an Illuminatti victim of satanic sexual abuse.

sorry here on america we have freedoms. one of those freedoms is to express ourselves in what ever ways we want to. america doesnt limit what people write. the only thing you and your family can do is wait until the book is actually published and released to the public. then if those who feel she portrayed them wrong wants to they can take her to court and show documentation and proof that what she said is not true.

more likely what may happen is that everyone may consider the fact that she is mentally ill and as part of her illness what you may not see as true, for her it is true. theres no way to tell someone that they can not write something in their book simply because they are having delusions and hallucinations.

let me give you an example... when I am having hallucinations and delusions because of my bipolar disorder and MS no one can tell me I cant write whats going on in my head down or type it into a book or journal. its my reality, flawed as it is at that moment its still my own views, thoughts and so on about my life and childhood.

just like someone cant tell you not to believe this person is slandering others or not to believe believe the parents were kind and loving. thats your own interpretation, your own belief and your own perception of these parents. nothing can change that for you.

nothing is going to change this sister in laws point of view, its her own interpretation, her own belief and her own perception.

heres another example.... one of my daughers has medically induced delusions and hallucinations.... one day I just could not understand why she felt her favorite toy was harmful to her. her treatment provider showed me a display she made to help parents...

on one side of the front side of a box is a yellow tennis ball. Just an every day run of the mill tennis ball. on the back side of a box is a yellow tennis ball but also has spikes all over it, and garishly evil eyes and mouth. the front side is what normal people see when they look at a tennis ball. the back side is what a schizophrenic/ psychosis, medically induced hallucinations/ delusional person sees. now you put a normal person on one side and the delusional one on the other. they are both looking at a yellow tennis ball but ones perceptions and view (perfectly harmless, ok soft loving ...) is different than the other (evil out to harm, did harm and so on) nothing is going to change each persons point of view.

my point your sister in laws perception, views and beliefs may not be the same as yours but they are hers.

my suggestion is if this continues to bother you contact a mental health treatment provider who can help you to deal with your own problems as a family member of someone who is mentally ill. since your sister in law is an adult only she can decide what she wants to write in her book. its her book.

[Skeezyks]

Hello Gymrat: I see this is your first post here on PC. So... welcome to PsychCentral! I hope you find the time you spend here to be of benefit.

I'm sorry you & your husband are faced with this most difficult dilemma. Sadly, while I'm certainly no expert with regard to this sort of thing, I personally doubt there are any simple ways to make your sister-in-law see the truth. She's an adult. And so long as she's not an imminent danger to herself or others, she pretty-much has the right to do as she chooses. The only remedies that would potentially be available, I would guess, would be legal; if in fact there are any.

Having written that, here are links to some articles, from PsychCentral's archives, that may be of some interest on the subject of helping someone who does not recognize they need help:

https://psychcentral.com/blog/11-way...one-in-denial/

https://psychcentral.com/lib/how-to-...sed-loved-one/

https://psychcentral.com/blog/how-to...essional-help/

Also... here's a link to an "Ask the Therapist" column wherein the writer was asking how to help a daughter. I include this column because, in her reply, the therapist recommends a book titled: I'm Not Sick, I Don't Need Help. The therapist writes that she considers it a must read:

https://psychcentral.com/ask-the-the...iple-problems/

Here's a link to a review of the book on the Friends for Mental Health website:

A review of "I'm not sick, I don't need help!" - Friends for Mental Health

I don't know, of course, if you're here simply seeking advice with regard to this particular concern or if you plan to continue posting. However, should you be planning to continue on (we hope you do)... may I suggest you introduce yourself over on PC's New Member Introductions forum? Here's a link:

https://forums.psychcentral.com/new-...introductions/

There's a lot of support that can be available here on PC. The more you post, & reply to other members' posts, the more a part of the community you will become. Plus there are the chat rooms where you'll be able to interact with other PC members in real time (once your first 5 posts have been reviewed & approved.) So please keep posting!

[Thunder Bow]

Her story is a work of fiction, and delusion. Talk to a lawyer about the slandar issue. Direct her to a Therapist.

[FallDuskTrain]

Interesting because if she is showing up on credible podcasts and/or working with credible journalists and publishing professionals, they would do their due diligence and investigate her claims, fact check them so to speak. Maybe she is working with very unprofessional people who don’t know what they are doing?

[*Laurie*]

If your SIL is severely mentallly ill, it won't be long before people catch on.

If your family isn't named it will be unlikely readers will link the contents to your family. Furthermore, about this book.... do you really think people are going to read it? No proper publisher worth their salt would touch such a volume. As smaller publisher for fly by night operation is unlikely to garner much of a sale. Frankly, I don't see people reading this in the first place. At least, it won't be the people who count.

She is 45 and a big girl. If she is unreachable in accepting support, you might want to at least temporarily cut ties. If she is of danger then contact the authorities. If you truly feel this slander is going to affect your family negatively get a lawyer.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by justafriend306

If your family isn't named it will be unlikely readers will link the contents to your family. Furthermore, about this book.... do you really think people are going to read it? No proper publisher worth their salt would touch such a volume. As smaller publisher for fly by night operation is unlikely to garner much of a sale. Frankly, I don't see people reading this in the first place. At least, it won't be the people who count.

She is 45 and a big girl. If she is unreachable in accepting support, you might want to at least temporarily cut ties. If she is of danger then contact the authorities. If you truly feel this slander is going to affect your family negatively get a lawyer.

sorry but I disagree. there are many autobiographical books out there that have after the fact of being published and pulling in mega bucks were discredited and discovered to be hoax's, scams, works of fiction.... I mean look at many of the autobiographical books on child abuse and various mental disorders.. one that comes to mind is Sybil.... after Shirley Masons death it was discovered much of what was in that book was falsified. they discovered a whole basement of journals and artwork that proved that book was actually mostly a work of fiction. not the disorder but much of the other stuff in the book was debunked by her own admissions.

bottom line is publishers will publish anything these says. even the worst book ever will get ratings and pull in money for that company. it all depends on how the writer decides to promote that book. if someone is willing to go to a store and sign autographs people are going to see that book and buy it just to see what its about. if a book has an eye catching cover its going to get bought and read.. if someone gets their favorite authors to read it and write a critique for the book its going to get bought and read....

let me give you an example...

my neice's class wrote a book for a classroom assignment. they decided to fill it full of nonsense but make the cover rainbowed. They got a children's book author to write a statement for the book. the author wrote one sentence of one item they liked in the book... this book has only been in print for a month and has been read by 50,000 people. at a price of 20.00, and to date they have received hundreds of letters on how good their book was,

the children learned what it takes to write a book, what the publishing process was, where paper comes from and that dont under estimate their words and potential, one persons garbage, uninteresting not worth anything item is another persons greatest find,

my point like you I felt thebook wont go anywhere, but I have since learned just because I may not think the original poster will get anywhere with their book doesnt necessarily mean they wont... just because I feel the publishing companies wont publish such a book I recently learned they will.

[RubyRae]

Originally Posted by Gymrat22

My husband’s older sister is not only writing a book but has also been on various Podcasts lying about her childhood. She claims her real mother died when she was born (not true, she’s still alive). The worst of it is that she claims that the couple who raised her are a part of the Illuminatti who made her a sex slave since birth.her story is awful and people actually believe her. She cut off her entire family and childhood friends and moved away in her 20’s. She’s now 45 yrs old with her book coming out soon. She has never actually named my in-laws names but it’s still slander. Is there ANY way to get her to see the truth? The truth is that her parents were loving people and never harmed her. We’ve given her evidence to disprove her story but she still believes she is an Illuminatti victim of satanic sexual abuse.

Has she been professionally diagnosed with schizophrenia?Or are you just assuming she has it?

And how do you know for 100% that her story is not true being the sister in law and not growing up with her to know what the truth is?

Originally Posted by amandalouise

sorry but I disagree. there are many autobiographical books out there that have after the fact of being published and pulling in mega bucks were discredited and discovered to be hoax's, scams, works of fiction....

Thank you, I guess as I would never touch such a thing with a ten foot barge pole it never occurred to me there was actually an appetite for such drivel. People actually read this stuff? How terribly sad.