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Old Jun 08, 2018, 03:11 PM
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What about people who claim to be spiritual mediums who hear & see invisible people, but such people don’t have paranoia, delusions, or disorganized speech. And those invisible people are consistent. They don’t change much over time. It’s not like they’re seeing monsters & stuff.

Are they just healthy people who have the ability to tap deeper into their subconscious world?
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Old Jun 08, 2018, 04:29 PM
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Wow, these scientists did brain scans on spiritual mediums to only discover something's happening that doesn't match the present model.

Study Finds the Unexpected in the Brains of Spirit Mediums
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...irit-mediums-0
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Old Jun 08, 2018, 05:46 PM
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Interesting article. I'm curious as to why the search for answers focuses on the psychological and not the neurological? The study, to me, is a display of some type of brain activity, or shall I say, non activity when taking into account the quieted lobe activity?
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Old Jun 10, 2018, 11:15 AM
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I believe that some people are using their brain/mind capability more expansively than most people do.
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Old Jun 10, 2018, 12:33 PM
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Well since we do not know whether or not there is a life after death, nobody can tell you what's wrong with these people. It's not like we know everything or every mental disorder is known.
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Old Jun 14, 2018, 01:37 PM
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I had a dog that barked in the corner of our living room. We were living in a near century old character home. One year we placed our Christmas tree in that corner and we kept finding decorations on the floor. We just figure it was on account the house was old and drafty. And the dog continued to bark. Anyway, one day I had a friend over and she said their was a man standing in the corner who was not impressed we put the tree in his spot. We moved the tree. The dog still barked but from that time on we no longer found decorations on the floor. This friend was deeply spiritual. Ocassionally she would make some remark about seeing and communicating with 'somethings'. I think she recognised she was safe to do so in front of me.

Just prior to my mother's passing she told me about her own experience with seeing things. It seemed to me she was having premonitions which seemed startling accurate.

I think there is in fact something to be said about some people having the gift of accessing more of the huge brain power most of us don't use.

However, I have the opinion that most mediums and fortune tellers are frauds. They use whats called 'soft tells' to play upon the vulnerable. One thing that is a basic unwritten rule amongst those who do claim to have the gift is that they don't use it for profit.
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Old Jun 14, 2018, 01:45 PM
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I truly think mental abilities are best portrayed in series like Sherlock. While your account is genuinely scary (I have anxiety) it is in no way scientifically verifiable. And science has turned out to be our best friend. I am not saying there is no absolute possibility that there cannot be a spiritual life, I just find it hard to believe. Science is the most reliable tool when it comes to understanding the world around us, I do not believe there is something hidden from it on purpose.
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Old Jun 14, 2018, 06:46 PM
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I find the academic science community to be neutral about spirits and the supernatural, not saying if it does or doesn't exist. Some academics are well aware of things they can't explain. For people who go outside of the normal comfort zone looking around should eventually see plenty of unexplainable things that have been recorded on video.

The best theory I have is that we create our own reality. It's one thing to prove it to one person, but it's another thing to prove it to 7+ billion people. It's like trying to lift a million pounds.

Anyway, it's not a big deal. Some people have overwhelming video evidence. They don't need to go around trying to prove it to unbelievers. Unbelievers say it's fake footage. LOL. Yeah, okee. Idc
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Old Jun 15, 2018, 03:05 AM
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I never said that spirits/supernatural things may not exist. But yes I have personal bias towards being a non-believer... we all are humans and we have our own opinion, but psychiatry does classify "beliefs not within one's culture" to be a symptom of psychiatric disorders, which are essentially brain malfunctions. As opposed to psychological ones, like depression or anxiety.
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Old Jun 15, 2018, 06:56 AM
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Some mediums have a history of concussion or similar early in their lives. My friend is psychic and she had an accident as a child. A part of her left temporal lobe is sending out bursts of signals that are not compatible with being awake (theta waves), while the rest of the brain is awake and she is awake. This is seen as a type of epilepsy. But it sort of goes hand in hand with the article. The area of her brain is less, not more active.
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Old Jun 15, 2018, 12:01 PM
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I'm talking about good video evidence. For example, a "spirit" telling you take photos with your camera, which results in very bright, wide, and long streaks. And not just one photo. Over a dozen photos. A lot of people around the world have similar good video footage. Footage of large objects such as a chair inside a closed room suddenly moving. Or people who attract high strangeness to the point where street lights turn off when they go near them.

I could write volumes of books on what people have told me, in addition to my own personal similar experiences. To be clear, I don't try to debate whether or not spirits and the supernatural is real. I know it's real, but I don't know what it is or what causes it. The unfortunate part is that most people don't have such evidence, and they most likely will continue to be unbelievers until they have the wonderful and amazing opportunity of capturing such evidence. It's a pity there're pranksters who make fake videos. I can't blame unbelievers for not trusting any personal evidence. I'm not talking about weak evidence such as a faint ghostly image, or a few thin streaks of light. I'm talking about something significant and obvious that cannot be explained by any known rational means. I've also had shared experiences with other people who've witnessed the same thing.

Lucky me! Although it has it's down side. Most people think you're a looney tune haha. It's okay. At least I know it's real, and wouldn't trade that for nothing.
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Old Jun 15, 2018, 12:06 PM
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Some mediums have a history of concussion or similar early in their lives. My friend is psychic and she had an accident as a child. A part of her left temporal lobe is sending out bursts of signals that are not compatible with being awake (theta waves), while the rest of the brain is awake and she is awake. This is seen as a type of epilepsy. But it sort of goes hand in hand with the article. The area of her brain is less, not more active.
No doubt that's true for some people. They may have had some brain damage, but what interests me even more is that it can also cause something else to happen to the human psyche that academics obviously have no clue about.
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Old Jun 15, 2018, 02:12 PM
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You may think like that, but I will not believe unless it's somehow accepted by the scientific community.
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Old Jun 15, 2018, 02:27 PM
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Mainstream community ranges from the old school academics who won't believe in something until it's reached the technological stage, all the way up to theoretical physicists such as the Albert Einsteins. Theoretical academics are working on stuff that the general mainstream community does not accept. Without the theoretical folks science & technology would eventually become almost completely stagnate. It took Albert Einstein about 20 years before most mainstream academics accepted his work. LOL. So it's not so simple.

Then you have academics who've witnessed or even recorded completely unexplainable events on video that mainstream does not accept. They usually remain silent, working alone on ways to understand it. They're the fortunate ones. I happen to be one of them.
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Old Jun 15, 2018, 07:43 PM
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There's plenty of scientists doing studies like this. This is a new breakthrough as it allows the body to be brought back to life 20 minutes after death and sometimes up to 40 minutes. The heart stops. The brain will stop about 30 seconds after the heart stops.



Of course these experiments do not support any specific religion. They don't know what's happening. Scientists can still believe in things they don't understand. In fact there's plenty of things scientists believe in but don't understand, from cosmology to quantum mechanics. There're all kinds of particles they predict, no proof or evidence of their existence, but most scientists still accept & believe they exist. If a scientist has some video footage they took that was clearly not produced by any camera anomaly, that scientists may not be able to prove it to the world, but at least they know it's true.
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Old Jun 16, 2018, 12:53 AM
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I know that it takes years for a theory to get approved. Just as how it takes years for a drug to be approved and manufactured after it is discovered.

Theoretical physicists, as far as my knowledge goes, have their building blocks on what is considered as "accepted" and then they go to some untested, mathematical stuff that proves THEORETICALLY how the universe works. No practical application for centuries.

Not to offend you, but "video footages" are not reliable. Do spirits communicate only by videos? And why don't I see my guardian angel, if he exists? From what I understand you're shoving your beliefs on others.

If spirits truly exist, why do I see supernatural stuff only on r/nosleep and NOWHERE, I mean absolutely NOWHERE, in the real world?


"Psychics" who perceive "the other world" are nothing more than a bad name to two sciences called psychology and psychiatry.
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Old Jun 16, 2018, 09:36 AM
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Listen dude, don't tell me I'm trying to shove my beliefs on others. F' you! That goes both ways. I started this thread. You're the one coming hear arguing with me. Anyone could say you're trying to shove your skeptic beliefs on others.

Reddit r/nosleep? Nonsense! You seriously need to get out more. The entire point of mentioning good video footage is not about explaining what's happening, but to point out that materialism or whatever you people want to call it does not explain significant objects repeatedly appearing in photos and videos. Especially after a "spirit" voice suddenly tells you to start taking photos. It doesn't explain a chair in a house suddenly moving. It's not used as evidence because they can't prove the person didn't fake it. Again, that sucks for you unbelievers, and is awesome for us believers. But by all means keep focusing on whatever sustains your skepticism. Idc

You don't know about Theoretical physicists. The ideas they come up with may not be based on math or anything acceptable by mainstream. Simulation theory/hypothesis is an example. It may be part of mainstream now, but it was a crazy idea when it started.
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Old Jun 16, 2018, 10:30 AM
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I wonder if any notable psychologist would say Lisa Williams has a disorder. I loved her tv show. This is a typical episode. There are more impressive episodes, but I couldn't find them.



Notice how Lisa gives several names of the ladies loved ones. She does that a lot.

There may not be "spirits." It's all still a confusing mystery. A lot of people, including myself, have had experiences, sometimes recorded on video, that can't be explained with materialism. Here's another I'll share. One time I asked my "spirit guide" if they would answer a question on my phone. They said yes. So I started up a voice recording app, asked my question. When listening to the recording I heard a voice as clear as day answer the question. It still gives me chills. Strange. Certain people like myself attract high strangeness.
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