Missing Wallet

Thanks ((KathyM)) - I agree with what you said and prefer to look at it this way. Since they're in class together, my daughter tells me what's going on and the girl isn't a good friend to other friends of hers either, so this proves it's not something my daughter did to bring on this mess.

The latest drama, is this girls friend has a boyfriend, so she went to the boy and said "so and so is breaking up with you" and it wasn't true. She likes the boy, so now she's stealing boyfriends lol, but he's not interested in her.

Sounds like that girl has a long and hard road ahead of her. By the time she figures out that she needs friends, she's going to have to start back at square one on how to keep them.

(((lynn))) oh, i so wasn't implying that your daughter did something to bring this on. i'm sorry if i gave that impression somehow. i've seen sometimes there is something spiritual happening when a pattern of similar things occur but the causes from what i know can be many. i wasn't at all assuming what they would be.

Thanks for saying this (((bloom))). I know you didn't mean for it to be taken this way. When bad events happen I think many people think - "I wonder what I did wrong or why is God doing this, etc". Plus I sincerely think it's good to do some thinking as to, how we may have contributed in making a situation worse by how we respond to bad events.

I don't know if I beleive in bad spiritual influences or curses, although I'm open minded to it - I believe in Karma. Now that I see this girl is also having a myriad of other problems interacting, I think my daughter just got involved with the wrong person. Don't worry bloom I understand and maybe you can explain more about what you were trying to say - I'm open to listening. I appreciate everyone who's responded so far.

oh good. i really didn't.

i guess i see life as being fairly complex so there are many factors and reasons why something could go wrong. i agree that sometimes we do bring things on ourselves by our actions, but in many cases i think we either just won't know why things happen or things happen just because someone freely chose to do something unkind.

i do agree with you here.

that could very well be the case. for me if i start to see a pattern then i tend to wonder what is up. i don't know if there is a pattern actually happening with the series of situations with your daughters, but it might be a good idea to see if things die down or if weird things like this keep happening.

when i mentioned it might be something spiritual i didn't have anything specific in mind or was even wondering as i just thought it'd be good to pray for protection for all of you. i figured if there is something that needs to be addressed God will bring it to light. i don't usually worry about the why so much as what is currently happening. i know there are some similarities between the ideas of sowing and reaping and karma but i would never assume something bad is happening because someone did something to bring it on themself. honestly, i'm not sure how a curse and karma would differ. they sound similar to me except for issues of past or future lives. i also think bad things can happen just because a negative spiritual being/force/whatever has your number for no fault of your own. sometimes it's because you're doing too many right things and they want to mess you up. in my faith we pray against things like that if it seems to be the case.

the issue of curses is definitely not one i know a whole lot about but in my faith they can be cancelled. i did have a very strange incident with a former neighbor who i was friends with. it's kind of a funny story so i'll share it but please know i am in no way implying this applies to your situation. we lived right across from each other at the top of a stairwell. we both got the daily newspaper and whenever he tried to make arrangements for his paper to be stopped when he was out of town it would get messed up and they'd either keep delivering the paper or he'd get extra papers, etc. the thing was i never had any problem whenever i went out of town and made arrangements for my paper to be stopped or transfered. the situation had gotten so bad that when he went away for several weeks and asked his paper to be stopped and discarded they ended up delivering those several weeks papers all at once when he returned. he said the pile was thigh high! it really had gotten comical and most of the time he was using an automated system thru the web or phone so it's not like someone was trying to mess with him. i used the same system and it was flawless for me.

i had a funny feeling something spiritual was happening because there was no reason why we'd be doing the same thing and having totally different results consistently. i never said anything though because i wasn't sure what exactly was going on. at one point i attended a conference at a church on healing. this one lady spoke and she talked about something she called bitter root judgments. she said that when we harshly judge someone for something they've done to us then somehow this can cause us problems in the future. in my faith issues of bitterness and withholding forgiveness are biggies and known to cause problems. when she explained the concept i just knew that was what was going on with my neighbor as he had very harshly chewed out a customer service lady on the phone about his poor delivery shortly after it started happening. this is a large national paper in a major city so it's not like this lady would have told the delivery guy to start messing with his delivery. they probably wouldn't even know each other in such a large company and working differing schedules. that would just be too farfetched as far as i'm concerned.

so, i told my neighbor about what i had learned at this conference and told him to try confessing to God his harsh judgment and treatment of this woman and then ask God for forgiveness. he wasn't willing to ask God for forgiveness (he doesn't even believe in God) but he did confess that he'd been harsh and judged this woman on the phone. well, next time he went away his paper delivery went totally smoothly. and it continued that way for some time until he had another altercation with the customer service (i'm not sure about what) and harshly judged them and then the problems started up again. i'm sure some people with think this was all random and had nothing to do with his delivery problem and that's fine too. i'm just sharing what i believe but i do realize it sounds pretty out there.

actually, i've had something happen in my own life repeatedly and always wondered why when i know i haven't done anything to cause it and it seemed so unexplainable but kept happening over the years. when i was thinking about all this earlier today i realized i did in fact bitterly judge the people from the very first time it occurred and now i'm wondering if that is what has made it repeat in my life. it's been something i've had happen with friends and it has caused me a lot of pain so i'm definitely going to deal with my bitter judgment from many years ago and see if this thing happens again.

((((bloom3))) - thank you for taking the time to explain what you meant and it makes a lot of sense. My husband comes from the Middle East and it's common to believe in the 'evil eye'. The use turquoise to ward off the evil eye and curses.

I know you weren't comparing your story to our situation but I wanted to share - I/we always try to solve things peacefully first. When it 1st happened, my daughter explained to the girl, all she wanted was for her to apologize and admit she took the items. She wouldn't say sorry and denied taking it - she would gossip lies to other kids and even said my daughter planted the items.

The girl came to our house, went on picnics with us and my senses told me something wasn't right - she seemed very nervous. I shared this with my daughter, but I didn't want to tell her who to be friends with because she's old enough to make these decisions. Since the girl is having many other problems - I don't think she knows how to be a good friend. At this point my daughter made the healthy decision not to remain friends.

I hope thiings have begun to settle down for your daughter at school Lynn. I know how disturbing these kinds of conflicts between kids can be for not just them but for us parents who can do little more then reassure them you are on their side and hope things get better in time. My heart goes out to you and your daughter.

My prayer is that your daughter connects with a new best friend with whom she is gifted to know a healthy, trustworthy and loyal friendship. Blessings.

Ah, I lost a phone and purse two seperate times when I was in school before! Naturally, I was upset, especially with the phone. Somebody actually broke into my locker and dug it out of my lunch bag. How that person found my phone in there is still somewhat beyond me. As for the purse, it dissappeared before my eyes. It was sitting on a floor when I was using my locker, and *poof.* Presto-purse-be-gone-o.

I hope poetic justice took care of the culprit(s) (or karma or the feeling of guilt overriding any other feeling or the like). Junior high kids can be quite awful sometimes!

I'm glad she terminated the friendship though! I hope your daughter is doing well!

Sounds to me that your daughters friend is more jealous than a friend, Lynn. I think she should ask her mother if she "lost" her ring at her friends house, if it's there mom would have seen it.

Maybe she should look at changing the arrangement of sharing a locker too,

Best of luck

Thanks sanity seeker - actually my daughter is doing well and things are calming down. Now other kids are upset with the girl because she tried to break up her friend and her boyfriend - she's on to stealing boyfriends now lol. I've always told my girls to have several friends, so yes she's fine on that department.

Thanks opaquemind0 - thanks for sharing what happened to you. It's sad people don't respect other people's possessions.

Thank you Rhiannonsmoon - I know this is a long thread, but yes the teacher did change lockers for the girls. When her father called our house and the dads' had a calm talk, my husband mentioned there's also a missing gold choker necklace and a ring - so hopefully they did look for it. We didn't want to push further.

I wanted to thank everyone who responded to this thread. Since both my parents are deceased and my husbands as well, we don't have the opportunity to get words of wisdom from our families. It helped a great deal to vent my frustrations here.

No problem. I agree. Where are good values these days? I almost cried when my phone was missing, and I was lucky my teacher was walking around in the halls. I was able to talk to her, and I felt better that she knew what happened. Sorry, just had to add that.

I'm glad your daughter is doing alright! I hope you're feeling a bit better with this situation too! May I safely say justice is being served to the other girl now?

Take care, lynn P.!