[Sameer6]

Official "Glass Walls" Video by Paul McCartney - YouTube

( "If slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be vegetarian." -- Sir Paul McCartney. )

Poor piglets killed by thumping...and more about other animals.

"Environmental scientists are sounding the alarm about the tragic state of the world's ocean.If we continue the fishing industries rape of the oceans at the current rate,Marine scientists tell us that the oceans will be empty of fish by the year 2048".

This should be the best video for good explanation about Animal cruelty, it's effects and as well as for those who wants to be Vegetarians.

Sir Paul McCartney...You are the Man.

[Jeff Smile]

Warning: the Glass Walls video contains images which might upset viewers.

[Nicks_Nose]

My father was a hunter and we grew up seeing animals die or be killed for food. Heck, we raised chickens for just such purposes and we assisted in the seasonal "prep." To witness it would not change anything in my diet. Without grocery stores, farming is how we produce our food to sustain us.

Plants and vegetables are living things too. We rip them from their life source, chop them up, boil them, skin them, roast them, etc. Do we have a soft heart for them too? Not when it comes to our own survival.

[hayleytheherbivore]

[Sameer6]

Originally Posted by Nicks_Nose

My father was a hunter and we grew up seeing animals die or be killed for food. Heck, we raised chickens for just such purposes and we assisted in the seasonal "prep." To witness it would not change anything in my diet. Without grocery stores, farming is how we produce our food to sustain us.

Plants and vegetables are living things too. We rip them from their life source, chop them up, boil them, skin them, roast them, etc. Do we have a soft heart for them too? Not when it comes to our own survival.

It's weird how some people use to compare plants when it comes to animals being killed.Plants can't feel pain.

Originally Posted by Nicks_Nose

My father was a hunter and we grew up seeing animals die or be killed for food. Heck, we raised chickens for just such purposes and we assisted in the seasonal "prep." To witness it would not change anything in my diet. Without grocery stores, farming is how we produce our food to sustain us.

I would mostly agree, but I think there's a big difference in how people would farm for themselves or on a small scale versus commercial mega-farming.

My current home is in a rural area where pretty much everyone has at least some farm animals. Horses, chickens, sheep, cows, llama, ducks, etc. There's one married couple who are friends of my family, and they raise turkeys. Even though every year they raise those turkeys to be slaughtered, they actually refuse to eat meat from stores because of how those animals get treated.

Rather than those farms where the animals are packed indoors so close together they can't even move, they have their turkeys free range, and only raise as many as they can actually take care of.

[The_little_didgee]

Not all slaughterhouses are torture houses. People like Temple Grandin have helped change the industry a lot. Her cattle chute designs make the experience a lot easier for cattle by reducing their anxiety. Not everybody is involved in unethical practices.

I come from a family of hunters who treat any animal they kill with great respect. I have witnessed the butchering process. It did not bother me, because my family has always been respectful. I will always eat meat.

[Nicks_Nose]

Originally Posted by Sameer6

It's weird how some people use to compare plants when it comes to animals being killed.Plants can't feel pain.

If the killing is done properly, there is no pain. Consuming an animal for food is not the same as torturing an animal or extended suffering of the animal for our amusement. I am tired of self righteous vegetarians or vegans preaching that sentimental stuff. Even animals themselves hunt and kill for survival. It is a natural cycle of the ecosystem. Are you going to preach to lions, snakes, cheetahs, spiders, etc about this too?

[-jimi-]

I'm more thinking how animals are raised. Chicken that pick each other to death because lack of space or crammed into a cage so they can't move. At least where I live there are strict rules how cattle can live, it's not sooo bad. Not that I can afford beef.

Slaughter should be as stress free as possible of course, but the slaughter itself is just a short passage and the longest time is when the animal is raised. Also needless transport can be vile.

Some people just cannot deal with killing in any shape or form. They should not consume meat products. Me, I have killed and butchered, no biggie.

[medicalfox]

I was a vegan for 6 years and I loved it, but I changed my diet because fish oil helps the most with bipolar disorder (and overall health) than just having omega 3 from plant sources. In my opinion people should have a mostly vegan diet, but still consume some white meat such as chicken and fish. Buying humanely raised animals that are fed proper diets is the best way to go when buying meat. Americans tend to eat too much meat and not enough vegetables which is a shame.

[LiteraryLark]

Being a vegetarian is a big missed steak.

I eat my meats along with my seafoods and vegetables and will continue to eat like that. I've seen slaughterhouses. Two times when my family and I went to get a good goat for Korbani (Eid), and once for getting farm-fresh chicken.

As long as the animal receives a quick and painless death and is not abused in any way, then I can comfortably eat meat.

[Sameer6]

Originally Posted by Nicks_Nose

If the killing is done properly, there is no pain. Consuming an animal for food is not the same as torturing an animal or extended suffering of the animal for our amusement. I am tired of self righteous vegetarians or vegans preaching that sentimental stuff. Even animals themselves hunt and kill for survival. It is a natural cycle of the ecosystem. Are you going to preach to lions, snakes, cheetahs, spiders, etc about this too?

Also it's weird how some people use to compare Animals killing Animals against Humans killing Animals.Sure Carnivorous Animals killing Herbivores Animals is brutal but that's how it is because Animals knowledge are limited.No one need to compare that to Humans killing Animals because Human beings are intelligent,they can change things to the better. Carnivorous animals will die if they don't hunt while Human beings can survive without eating meat.
Another common weird thing some people use to say is that our ancestors hunted Animals so we can be like that too.Our ancestors are a different story.Modern Humans are intelligent and they don't need to do any of that.Overall, there is no doubt that Nature sucks. I am not one of the self righteous vegetarians or vegans.That video had good message and i wanted to post it.I don't like to involve in some war with people in any post.By the way,i am a vegetarian from this year Jan 1, 2014.I am ending my conversation.