I want to learn a Celtic language

I think we did talk about ihr and I just forgot.

I think I would probably just use Sie until I'm told otherwise (unless it's a friend I'm talking to).

That's good. And haha, it's going to take me a long time to get to a decent level in German grammar. Although I'd rather know it sooner rather than later, again with my generation and instant gratification issues.

Learned some basic greetings today, now it's just memorizing them, Guten Morgen, Guten Tag, and Guten Abend are pretty easy to memorize. But there are others used in southern Germany, Austria, and Switzerland that I'm not sure how much I need to know them, but I'll probably memorize them too. The ones for saying goodbye are going to be a little harder to memorize (besides Gut Nacht, and Tschüss).

Well, maybe it's not so much greetings themselves, but their constituent words. It's Guten Morgen, Tag and Abend, because those are masculine nouns. And Gute Nacht, because it's feminine.

And yeah, I don't know myself what regional greetings you could have been given. Although one that I'd recommend because of how often I've encountered it, is "Moin". Comes from Low German and it's a kind of "Hi"... Also the Wiktionary article for "tschüs" (for some reason it prefers a single ending "s") is quite interesting. Well, it's not of High German origin, of course, but apparently it's related to the French adieu (I don't know how familiar you are with that, but usually it's among a few internationally famous parts of French, after croissant and baguette).

I don't know why you have such a big problem with instant gratification. Especially in the case of grammar. It's fun to only very few people and is really kind of a... tool with which to handle the fun things. Of course you'd want to get it over with as fast as possible.

Not to mention that plenty of people learn German without touching grammar - especially immigrants immersed in the language. They might learn German badly, but at the same time it's kind of the most natural way of learning a foreign language, one that's been practiced as long as languages have existed.

...Anyway, just a different perspective.

A couple of the regional greetings that were given were, Grüezi, Grüß Gott, and Grüß dich, Grüezi is used in Swizerland, while the latter two are used in southern Germany and Austria according to my book.

I have many problems, instant gratification is only one of them. Anyway, I want to learn grammar because it may actually make learning the language easier for me, especially since I can't get over to Germany to immerse myself in the language. In a way it's a double edge sword because I want to learn grammar, but it frustrates me, I think I have to find a way to make it fun and interesting.

German has a word for Mr. and Mrs. but not Ms (Miss). Frau is used as Mrs, and I guess in place of the non-existent Me. Frau also means woman, and wife, so I guess how you use Frau depends on the context. But also the book gave an imteresting little tid bit about how the word Fräulein use to be the word for Miss (Ms), but it is no longer used.

Well, that may be. Unfortunately I'm much less familiar with colloquial German in countries other than Germany... Which is to say... well, that's a weird statement because formal German seems very uniform across the lands (apart from some small spelling differences).

Oh, also Grüß dich isn't particularly regional, I would think, becase grüß is simply the imperative form of the pretty normal verb grüßen - to greet (probably a cognate too).

It's also an important point, what constitutes "learning grammar". I've read the grammatical rules of Welsh, but I can remember only a couple, maybe. And that's happened to me with German at least once, when I read a grammar book, even did most of exercises in it, but a little while later was floundering in basic constructions.

So what do you mean by "learning grammar"?

Anyway, what I'm trying out for myself, is taking a Welsh text and trying to deconstruct it on paper, looking up grammar rules as they come up. I mean things like "eb." and "eg." above nouns (abrreviations for feminine and masculine) - also trying to keep English out of it as much as possible.

No, I don't think Frau is used for both Mrs. and Ms. I can't be 100% sure because of how rarely I've heard it at all. But I think it's a prefix for a married woman... And yeah, otherwise it depends on context. "Seine Frau" - his wife. "Eine schöne Frau" - a beautiful woman... Although I suppose even there it could differ depending on the context.

Okay, thats fpr clarifyomg that, I was just going by what the book gave me, and trying tonclarifybfor younthe greetings I was given. It seems as though greetings are so uniform across parts of Germany, Switzarlamd and Austria. Which for mw can be confusing.

I think I mean learning grammar by way of making sure I'm using the correct forms of words when, where amd how they're used, so I dont mess up and embarrass myself when speaking or writing in the language, I want to learn speakable, and written German so grammar should be a requirement fpr me at least (for others it may not be so much). That's my take on it anyways, ypur millage may vary on this.

Right not I just started greetings, and how there are formal replies to greetings like; Und Ihnen? (And you?) And then the answer Und dir? (And you?) or Und euch? (And you?).

Then the greetings themselves:
Danke gut (Fine, thanks)
Sehr gut (Very good)
Ganz gut (Really good)
Es geht (So, so) also means "it goes"
Nicht so gut (not so good)

These are some of the greetings they give, not bad I guess, because English has a lot of greetings aswell, so this can't be too hard.

I'm taking a chance and listening to music on my phone despite the storage problems I'm coming across, music I'm German to help with immersion in the language and hearing the words out loud. Hopfully I don't use up a lot of storage doing this. Ugh, I hate my phone, if I wasn't poor I'd get a new nicer one.

I'm not sure I understood you right. That greetings are the same is confusing? I mean, the language is the same, you can't expect such basic units of it to be really different... Although at the same time they're kind of... not everyday expressions. It's like in English, how often do you say "Greetings!"

I'm not sure we have the same definition of a greeting... Anyway, I don't know how they enter into the picture of learning grammar, since... well, they're kind of just words. That fits more the area of vocabulary... I don't know if you got confused about that. I sure am.

Also, the question is more, not what grammar is, but what you mean by learning it. Like I said, I don't think simply reading about it will get you there... Unless you have way better memory then I.

Heeeeyyy... https://www.quora.com/Which-European...ose-to-Persian

So you can guess that's one of my favorite activities when I'm bored - looking at more languages to get excited about. Isn't that enticing? ...Well, not so much, for one because it's definitely a new keyboard layout... But maybe by the time I'm "done" with Welsh and any other more approacheable languages, we don't use keyboards anymore.

True, I just thought it was interesting that different German speaking regions/countries had different greetings besides Guten Morgen, Guten Tag, and Guten Abend. I wasn't totally confused, more or less curious as to the fact that they were different. Though no matter where I go Incould still get away with Guten Morgen, Guten Tag, and Guten Abend, amd then explain that my German isn't the best. So maybe I could avoid embarrassment and being laughed at that way, I don't know, just thinking here.

Oh my memory was great before I started medication especially Lamictial (it's an anti - eptiliptic used as a mood stabilizer typically used in bipolar depression, but I don't have bipolar disorder, I just have major depressive disorder), and I'm more of a hands on learner along with some audio and coming in third is visual learning. So I need something hands on that will help me learn German, kind of like muscle memory when learning an instrument (which I'm great at, the fastest I memorized a piece of music was in 3 days, and sooner depemding on how easy the music was). Memorizing words are a different story, I have a harder time with that, and I can't figure out why, maybe I'll start to remember them if I repeat them over and over again, like I used to do with my spelling homework in elementary school, we had to spell our words 5x each for our homework, so maybe if I do something like that I'll memorize words better. I don't know forsure if that'll work, but it's worth a try.

Curse the medication taking away my memory, that frustrates me to no end, and psychiatrists don't care. And I won't switch because what I'm on works amd everything else causes massive weight gain, I've alreadybgained weight (which I can't figure out as I've been on this combo one since 2015 and the other side 2016), why all of a sudden would it be causing weight gain? Weird.

Sorry for the off topic tangent, it just kind of happened.

Cool website, I didn't understand a lot of it (my intelligence is only slightly above average, yay me [not]). But it seems interesting that Armanian can be similar tonother languages and was once considered a info-European language, and has it's relative Persian which can be close to Greek in some ways. That's if I'm correct from what I did read, I may be wrong, please correct me if I am. Languages are interesting.

So today I was playing around with Duolingo, besides going back through the German course for a second time to help with memorization. I was also going through the first few lessons in Dutch and Spansish. Dutch is pretty easy now that I have a base in German, plus Dutch shares a couple words with English, "water" being one, and "man" being another. And some words aren't too different from German either, maybe different spellings but similar pronunciations. So I kind of like Dutch as a language.

Spanish on the other hand was a little difficult, I don't remember much of anything, butbwas able tonfugure out the phrases and words pretty okay, not very well though. I wish I remembered my Spanish, Hell I wish Inwould have payed more attention in school in my Spanish classes, I took two years, Inshould have remembered something, but alas I didn't. I do have a facebook friend whonspeaks Spanish who is willing to help if and when I decide to learn Spamishbagain, except it will be a different dialect from Mexican Spanish as he is from Venezuela, but it shouldn't be too much of a difference or problem, it's still Spanish.

I will say say languages are interesting, I've felt that way for a few years now, having originally listened to songs in Finnish, but Inswitiched to German for my music (though I still have a couple songs in Finnish in my playlist on Spotify) there is also a song by Bon Jovi his song "I'll Be there for You" has a Spanish version and it is a lot better than the English version, Inhave the Spanish version on my mp3 player, and the only way I understand it is because I memorized the English version.

If it wasn't for a Facebook post about not judging a person who speaks broken English, I would have never decided to learn another language at all (though I did start thinking about it in the beginning of 2017, just lost motivation, but now I'm motivated).

So my phone storage is still acting up, and I found out the speakers on my Kindle are acting right now, I can hear out of both ears with my headphones in.

Right now I'm only listening to music in German, to try to somewhat immerse myself in it the best I can, obviously the best way to immerse yourself in a language is to go to the country of your target language, but I can't do that. Luckly Spotify has an extensive library of bands with songs in German.

Well, as lang as we're doing digressions, I've been doing really terrible the past two days, and it's kind of interesting how that affects my memory. Namely, I started shedding words from my flashcards like it's nobody's business. Whereas previously... Anyway, that's just how I feel... Well, mood is supposed to affect your memory after all.

I don't know. Maybe I'll resubscribe to Netflix. Not necessarily to improve my mood... but just to escape. And if I know myself, it'll still have some effect on my language learning.

I don't remember if you've told it, what do you like watching on Netflix? I mostly hesitate to resubscribe - aside from money reasons - as I quickly lose interest and can't find anything to watch. Like, I basically watched the latest season of Stranger Things and couldn't really bring myself to care about much else.

I'm pretty sure Armenian is still supposed to be in the Indo-European family... Which... well, I didn't understand your attitude towards your intelligence, to be frank. Which is a complicated topic anyway...

I think my current language learning spree had a bit to do with the fact that I couldn't understand how people decided that some languages were related to others... I think I'm finally starting to get it.

Like, they say that the fact that the number "three" is the same in Latin, Slavic and Celtic langages matters. But why? Because that's a part of speech that generally won't get borrowed from a different language. The same with pronouns... Words that tend to get borrowed are nouns and verbs, coming over together with the foreign objects and activities...

I'll take you at your word, but to me it sounds instead that you're kind of bored with German, which is why you're looking at other languages. I'm not criticizing, though, it just kind of feels like things don't match up.

And I wouldn't be so quick to lump Venezuelan and Mexican Spanish together. Well, they're going to have serious differences in pronunciation - that's for sure. But they may also differ in pronouns. Although I haven't looked at Venezuela, I know for example that in the Argentinian dialect there's a pronoun that doesn't exist either in Spain or Mexico... And then you're going to encounter idioms, misuse of which, as I understand, leads to comical misunderstandings more often than not, because Spanish-speaking countries are strangely fond of applying formerly innocent words to obscene activities, regionally, while in other countries those words remain "clean".