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jrae · Nov 26, 2020, 06:08 AM

the brain and the mind battle it out, who wins???

mote.of.soul · Nov 26, 2020, 08:08 AM

Yes, it's an interesting question. One I more or less wrestle with a lot.

I like to think that as long as I can hold onto some principles on this difficult journey, and as long as I can do a few things that show me I haven't given up, then, my mind is winning. To me.

Nov 26, 2020, 08:32 AM

I'm not sure I understand. Do you mean between logic (brain) and the heart / emotion (mind)?

divine1966 · Nov 26, 2020, 08:47 AM

It depends in what situation. Generally speaking you do need to use your mind and brain and logic when making any serious decision

mote.of.soul · Nov 26, 2020, 08:56 AM

@WovenGalaxy
@divine1966

I get the feeling jrae's question has to do with the struggle with mental health. The 'brain' being the sick part and the 'mind' being the persons part in it, the choices they make, etc.

But maybe it's best if @jrea will elaborate.

divine1966 · Nov 26, 2020, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mote.of.soul

@WovenGalaxy
@divine1966

I get the feeling jrae's question has to do with the struggle with mental health. The 'brain' being the sick part and the 'mind' being the persons part in it, the choices they make, etc.

But maybe it's best if @jrea will elaborate.

I think mind and brain kind of the same thing in this contest. Hope he or she clarifies

mote.of.soul · Nov 26, 2020, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by divine1966

I think mind and brain kind of the same thing in this contest. Hope he or she clarifies

@divine1966

Well, I'm simplifying here, but in counseling and therapy you're encouraged to view your mental illness as just that, a 'mental illness'. It's not the 'real' you. It doesn't define you, they say.

I thought you would've know that? You've been in this site long enough.😁

divine1966 · Nov 26, 2020, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mote.of.soul

@divine1966

Well, I'm simplifying here, but in counseling and therapy you're encouraged to view your mental illness as just that, a 'mental illness'. It's not the 'real' you. It doesn't define you, they say.

I thought you would've know that? You've been in this site long enough.😁

I’ve no idea what is OP asking. They didn’t even specify if they are talking about mental illness or decision to buy a new car. I am not going to assume

Yes mental illness doesn’t define people, it’s just an illness. Yes I do know it. I don’t see where I said I didn’t. I don’t see where OP asks about that either. This is general social chat subforum so it could be about anything.

mote.of.soul · Nov 26, 2020, 01:42 PM

@divine1966

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Originally Posted by divine1966

Yes mental illness doesn’t define people, it’s just an illness. Yes I do know it. I don’t see where I said I didn’t.

In your previous reply to me, you said 'brain and mind are the same thing' - meaning mental illness and person are the same thing. But they're not.

divine1966 · Nov 26, 2020, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mote.of.soul

@divine1966

In your previous reply to me, you said 'brain and mind are the same thing' - meaning mental illness and person are the same thing. But they're not.

No it’s not what I meant. In addition mental illness was never mentioned neither by me nor by OP.

mote.of.soul · Nov 26, 2020, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by divine1966

No it’s not what I meant. In addition mental illness was never mentioned neither by me nor by OP.

Mental illness was mentioned by me. It's a chat forum. But okay, it's not what you meant so I'll leave it there. Cheers.

Fuzzybear · Nov 26, 2020, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mote.of.soul

Yes, it's an interesting question. One I more or less wrestle with a lot.

I like to think that as long as I can hold onto some principles on this difficult journey, and as long as I can do a few things that show me I haven't given up, then, my mind is winning. To me.

mote.of.soul · Nov 26, 2020, 08:29 PM

@Fuzzybear

Aw, thank you my ((Fuzzybear)).

🌼🌻🌞

eskielover · Nov 28, 2020, 10:25 AM

My interpretation of this question would be that the "brain" is just the physical entity. The "mind" is the thought processes we go through to activate the brain.

The PHYSICAL brain can have chemical imbalances, tumors, anurisms, etc. that can have an influence on the way our thoughts & actions function...but we still can override the physical with our thought processes (most of the time)

It can be a battle depending on the physical condition but unless an extreme problem I think our thinking is what is in control.

This may NOT be what the OP was implying with the question but this is my interpretation based on what I have learned about the brain

Nov 28, 2020, 10:29 AM

Which part feels emotion?

eskielover · Nov 28, 2020, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ann bog

Which part feels emotion?

My understanding is that the physical "brain" feels the emotion.....what we do with that emotion & how we respond to it is controlled by our thought process in the mind. Mindfulness is about acknowledging the emotion we feel & thinking through it with our logical mind taking into consideration the emotions & coming up with the best response. This is basically the way my psychologist explained how our minds work in relation to the physical functioning of the brain

Prycejosh1987 · Nov 29, 2020, 11:55 AM

The brain is physical, but the mind is emotional and mental. Technically they are one and the same thing.
I prefer the mind because it encourages us to open doors and close doors in our lives.

Ford Puma · Nov 29, 2020, 12:52 PM

The brain tries to tell the mind what to do, the mind, however, likes to do as it pleases.

Nov 30, 2020, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Prycejosh1987

The brain is physical, but the mind is emotional and mental. Technically they are one and the same thing.
I prefer the mind because it encourages us to open doors and close doors in our lives.

so, which part would be natural reaction, or gut feeling? the mind? The brain isn't technically a muscle but it does work like a muscle - and may respond, at times, like "muscle memory". So the more we practice a mindful act, the stronger our brain gets.

Nov 30, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ann bog

so, which part would be natural reaction, or gut feeling? the mind? The brain isn't technically a muscle but it does work like a muscle - and may respond, at times, like "muscle memory". So the more we practice a mindful act, the stronger our brain gets.

Interesting! I agree that the brain works like a muscle and I like your example.

I also think the brain / mind takes the form of what it rests on. Basically, what we focus on grows. If we're focused on something negative, that's what we see. If we are focused on the positive side of that same thing, our mood improves and we feel relief. I need to take my own wisdom here and use it more!

jrae · Dec 01, 2020, 01:01 AM

wow -> so many interesting responses and comments!

first off, i do apologize for any confusion or upset or anything else that this has caused! it was not my intention at all. i just thought it was a thought-provoking idea.... (one maybe some hadn't considered before)

2nd... i guess in the basic sense, it is physical and mental.

this 'question' or idea had been on my mind for a while now, and was pondering it. for me, it kinda came from a physical injury to my brain. and along with that, came the limitations (so to speak) on what it could do and handle.
so i was encountering days where no matter what my mind 'wanted' to do, the brain was like 'nope, we're done now'! i'm sorry if that sounds confusing -> not sure how else to word things...

jrae · Dec 01, 2020, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by eskielover

My interpretation of this question would be that the "brain" is just the physical entity. The "mind" is the thought processes we go through to activate the brain.

The PHYSICAL brain can have chemical imbalances, tumors, anurisms, etc. that can have an influence on the way our thoughts & actions function...but we still can override the physical with our thought processes (most of the time)

.....

good interpretation here! probably more insight than i had

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